[GRACE] The Threshold of Evil Incarnate [0-0-5]

[Fernaine]

It's possible this goes to incon, however I might add all of these concepts are separate from one another so I don't see how one attack can each all of them simultaneously, it's not like he embodies these concepts, he's linked to them and gains abilities from them but it is incredibly hard to interact with them without specifically reaching them

I mean, I don't see why it wouldn't sever him from his concepts if he's linked to them and not embodying. Even then, Noah is linked to the concept of Inevitable Death (not embodying, he's a herald linked to it), and as a Transcendental, other Transcendentals should be capable of severing his connections like usual. And since they can bypass all of Lino's concepts at once with their attacks, I don't see why it would not transfer to links.

 

[GrandAdmiralCosmicBrains]

I mean, I don't see why it wouldn't sever him from his concepts if he's linked to them and not embodying. Even then, Noah is linked to the concept of Inevitable Death (not embodying, he's a herald linked to it), and as a Transcendental, other Transcendentals should be capable of severing his connections like usual. And since they can bypass all of Lino's concepts at once with their attacks, I don't see why it would not transfer to links.

I'm not sure of the difference in concepts and how they scale/work in the different verses but assuming they're the same this would have to be an incon

 

[Yoriichi999]

Inconclusive given all evidence

 

[Fernaine]

I'm not sure of the difference in concepts and how they scale/work in the different verses but assuming they're the same this would have to be an incon

Yeah, I don't see how any of them could survive the initial power clash anymore. Switching my vote to Incon FRA.

 

[GrandAdmiralCosmicBrains]

Yeah, I don't see how any of them could survive the initial power clash anymore. Switching my vote to Incon FRA.

One big ahh explosion and they both are entirely erased

 

[Fernaine]

Aaaand Grace!

 

[ExSENNA]

bros think willpower is some sort of energy smh smh

Incon FRA

I also did a small edit on Sukuna if he was actually strong Rancour's page to fix some stuff

 

[Rayfire]

bros think willpower is some sort of energy smh smh

Bro doesn't know path of wills like that...

I'll follow suit with everyone else and go with Incon FRA

 

[Fernaine]

bros think willpower is some sort of energy smh smh

Willpower Scaling my beloved (90% of my characters depend on it to be OP)

 

[ExSENNA]

Bro doesn't know path of wills like that...

I'll follow suit with everyone else and go with Incon FRA

bro thinks he can get me to read bakuhatsu

Willpower Scaling my beloved (90% of my characters depend on this to be OP)

based

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Ok bois Ahsoars prolly incons both these guys if u want to stack matches on your profiles feel free to make it she's the only character I have that I think would have a fair match that it wouldnt't end with stomp for either way

 

[GrandAdmiralCosmicBrains]

bros think willpower is some sort of energy smh smh

Incon FRA

I also did a small edit on Sukuna if he was actually strong Rancour's page to fix some stuff

LMFAOO thanks I'll check it out after

 

[Rayfire]

bro thinks he can get me to read Path of wills

The name changed

 

[Fernaine]

Ok bois Ahsoars prolly incons both these guys if u want to stack matches on your profiles feel free to make it she's the only character I have that I think would have a fair match that it wouldnt't end with stomp for either way

Just by looking at her page it seems like it would definitely be an Incon. It would be interesting to make a post between her and the Progeny just to add to their profiles, though.

 

[SSB64]

If Rancour's IA detects he may be destroyed, it would choose to open the Dominion and it would tear apart Progeny faster than he is torn apart.

This reminds me of that crap post I saw with the Coughing Baby Vs Hydrogen Bomb, where the Hydrogen Bomb dies first since it needs to explode in order to kill the Coughing Baby, so the Coughing Baby wins via being intact for a nanosecond longer than the bomb.

Not to mention, from the sound of things, Rancour seems to have resistance to Madness Manipulation, but given the hierarchy of characters and where Progeny stands in it, it sounds like he can pierce multiple layers (Well over half a dozen), layers of resistance to Madness Manipulation, so Rancour might not even mentally be able to pull off what he does before he gets destroyed. That's just my two cents though.

 

[SSB64]

But yeah. As mentioned, if all this fight amounts to is both of them getting obliterated the moment this fight starts, then imo, it shouldn't have happened.

 

[SSB64]

LMFAOO thanks I'll check it out after

Actually, looking it over again, I noticed something..... Weird, about his matchup.

Let me ask you something. If Rancour is instantly killed, his kamikaze will instantly go off before the Progeny's instant power null affects said Kamikaze, correct?

 

[Fernaine]

Not to mention, from the sound of things, Rancour seems to have resistance to Madness Manipulation, but given the hierarchy of characters and where Progeny stands in it, it sounds like he can pierce multiple layers (Well over half a dozen), layers of resistance to Madness Manipulation, so Rancour might not even mentally be able to pull off what he does before he gets destroyed. That's just my two cents though.

That was essentially my argument to say that Rancour would end up incapacitated and unable to use Dominion, but in the end, we couldn't agree on what would happen and if Rancour had enough resistance to tank Subjugation's Madness Manip and the result ended up being Inconclusive (Also Dominion seemingly activating at the same time as Subjugation).

 

[SSB64]

we couldn't agree on what would happen and if Rancour had enough resistance to tank Subjugation's Madness Manip

I would've said that it would work due to Rancour's amount of resistance being too vague, so for the sake of argument, has to be the lowest possible that would make sense for it to be.

 

[GrandAdmiralCosmicBrains]

bro thinks he can get me to read bakuhatsu

based

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Ok bois Ahsoars prolly incons both these guys if u want to stack matches on your profiles feel free to make it she's the only character I have that I think would have a fair match that it wouldnt't end with stomp for either way

I'd like to see how Ahsoars interacts with Raúl, given their hax it would be an interesting matchup, although likely an incon, it would still be interesting

 

[SSB64]

I'd like to see how Ahsoars interacts with Raúl, given their hax it would be an interesting matchup, although likely an incon, it would still be interesting

Is everything an Incon with this guy?

 

[GrandAdmiralCosmicBrains]

Is everything an Incon with this guy?

Ahsoars seems like an instant incon with anyone but it's good to give it a swing

 

[ExSENNA]

Just by looking at her page it seems like it would definitely be an Incon. It would be interesting to make a post between her and the Progeny just to add to their profiles, though.

I'd like to see how Ahsoars interacts with Raúl, given their hax it would be an interesting matchup, although likely an incon, it would still be interesting

feel free to make it