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CAN become. Doesn't mean they are.YungManzi said:
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Goten vs Goku
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If it's Android Saga, Goten still has an advantage, but not as large of one. However, Considering Vegeta was stronger than Goku at this point and even he couldn't damage 18, I'm confident Goku would have a hard time.
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Goten is equal to Ultimate Gohan, since the Daizenshuu only says "Gohan", meaning Gohan in general, and since Ultimate Gohan is the strongest warrior of the Boo Saga aside from Gotenks-absorbed Super Boo and Super Vegito, that means Goten stomps.
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But seriously, yeah, Goten should win this one
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But seriously, yeah, Goten should win this one
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Pretty sure even base Vegito is FAR stronger than Ultimate Gohan.Kepekley23 said:
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The same Base Vegito whose only appearance in the manga saw him shit himself at Boo's suppressed ki blast? How so?
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Seriously, Base Vegito has no feats at all in the manga. Look up the chapter where he first appears. He sweats bullets when he sees Gohan-Boo firing a suppressed ki blast at him, and he turns into a Super Saiyan immediately to block that.
Meanwhile, Gohan casually stomps Super Boo, and is called the "Saikyo no Senshi", which literally translates to the "strongest of warriors". Pretty sure nobody in the entire saga, aside from Gotenks-Boo, Gohan-Boo and Super Vegito, can hold a candle to him.
Meanwhile, Gohan casually stomps Super Boo, and is called the "Saikyo no Senshi", which literally translates to the "strongest of warriors". Pretty sure nobody in the entire saga, aside from Gotenks-Boo, Gohan-Boo and Super Vegito, can hold a candle to him.
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And this is why Toei Vegetto>>>>Canon DBZ Vegito in terms of power. Man Toeiverse is OP
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Toei has Goku state Kid Boo is the strongest Boo while fighting him on Super Saiyan 2
The same Super Saiyan 2 Goku was going to get stomped by Super Boo.
So, apparently:
Super Boo > Super Saiyan 2 Goku = Kid Boo (initial power) > Gohan-Boo > Super Boo > Super Saiyan 2 Goku.
Makes a lot of sense.
The same Super Saiyan 2 Goku was going to get stomped by Super Boo.
So, apparently:
Super Boo > Super Saiyan 2 Goku = Kid Boo (initial power) > Gohan-Boo > Super Boo > Super Saiyan 2 Goku.
Makes a lot of sense.
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Didn't Old Kai state Vegito wouldnt even need SS anything to defeat Super Buu since the fusion by itself was already so strong and if they went SS the extra power could potentially put strain on their body and life?
I strongly recall him mentioning that.
I strongly recall him mentioning that.
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He said that about a fusion between Goku and Goha, not Goku and Vegeta.
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Well if thats true then Canon Vegetto>>>>>Toei Vegito.Kepekley23 said:
Although that scaling is weird.
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Hmm. I'll recheck the manga sooner or later to find out then.
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Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P6.2-6
Context: Elder Kaioshin gives the Potara to Goku
Elder Kaioshin: "Here! Put this Potara on your left ear! [ ] Put the other one on Gohan's ear. Just by doing that, you two will be able to merge together! Like with Fusion."
Goku: "Huh! Re-really!?"
Elder Kaioshin: "Of course. And what's more, the effect is greater than with Fusion! This has been the trump card treasure of the Kaioshins since long ago."
Chapter: 502 (DBZ 308), P1.3
Context: Goku asks if he should become a Super Saiyan before merging with the Potara, and Elder Kaioshin advices against it
Elder Kaioshin: "If you're going to become a Super Saiyan, it's better to do it after merging. But anyway, even without doing that, you'll probably be plee~~eenty. The Potara's power is just that amazing!"
It was about Gohan.
Context: Elder Kaioshin gives the Potara to Goku
Elder Kaioshin: "Here! Put this Potara on your left ear! [ ] Put the other one on Gohan's ear. Just by doing that, you two will be able to merge together! Like with Fusion."
Goku: "Huh! Re-really!?"
Elder Kaioshin: "Of course. And what's more, the effect is greater than with Fusion! This has been the trump card treasure of the Kaioshins since long ago."
Chapter: 502 (DBZ 308), P1.3
Context: Goku asks if he should become a Super Saiyan before merging with the Potara, and Elder Kaioshin advices against it
Elder Kaioshin: "If you're going to become a Super Saiyan, it's better to do it after merging. But anyway, even without doing that, you'll probably be plee~~eenty. The Potara's power is just that amazing!"
It was about Gohan.
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Except the problem with that Kep is that Elder Kai is specifically refering to the power of the Potara, not whom is fusing via the Potara. Otherwise he would have said something about Goku and Gohans combined power being that great, not the power of the potara in general.
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@Hstmaster
Those are fan-translated lines, and Herms's translations are far better, since it's word-for-ford from the Japanese. We generally trust Herms 100% when it comes to DBZ here.
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The power of Potara and also the power of the two fusees. Unless you believe a fusion between Tien and Krillin would be enough to beat Boo.
He's simply saying that the Potara's boost is far greater, so a fusion between Goku and Gohan (who are powerful) would be that powerful.
In fact, Shin literally said the same thing you did in the manga when Vegito turns into a Super Saiyan, and Elder Kai corrects him, saying it's because of Goku and Vegeta, not the Potara.
Chapter: 504 (DBZ 310), P9.2-3
Context: as Vegetto beats up on Gohan-absorbed Boo
Kaioshin-Kibito: "H-he's strong!!! Majin Boo there is helpless!!! To think that merging with the Potara would be this incredible…!!"
Elder Kaioshin: "Idiot, it's because it was those two that they were able to go so far. Two of the top 3 masters in both the living world and afterlife have merged, after all. What's more, two rivals have joined together. That's definitely strongest."
Those are fan-translated lines, and Herms's translations are far better, since it's word-for-ford from the Japanese. We generally trust Herms 100% when it comes to DBZ here.
@Kukui
The power of Potara and also the power of the two fusees. Unless you believe a fusion between Tien and Krillin would be enough to beat Boo.
He's simply saying that the Potara's boost is far greater, so a fusion between Goku and Gohan (who are powerful) would be that powerful.
In fact, Shin literally said the same thing you did in the manga when Vegito turns into a Super Saiyan, and Elder Kai corrects him, saying it's because of Goku and Vegeta, not the Potara.
Chapter: 504 (DBZ 310), P9.2-3
Context: as Vegetto beats up on Gohan-absorbed Boo
Kaioshin-Kibito: "H-he's strong!!! Majin Boo there is helpless!!! To think that merging with the Potara would be this incredible…!!"
Elder Kaioshin: "Idiot, it's because it was those two that they were able to go so far. Two of the top 3 masters in both the living world and afterlife have merged, after all. What's more, two rivals have joined together. That's definitely strongest."
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That can still have more than one meaning but I digress, didn't know Herms translated the entire manga is it on Kazenshuu?
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Not the entire manga, just the power-related quotes.
Look up "strength checker kanzenshuu". Should be the first result.
Look up "strength checker kanzenshuu". Should be the first result.
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