Goku vs Superman Stats =ized

[Landon_Avery]

Goku vs Superma



Rules:
Fight ends in KO or death

Speed, AP, and, Durability =ized

Location: Earth

 

[Megamangohan]

i did this

 

[Landon_Avery]

Yeah, but you =ized EVERYTHING.

 

[Akreious]

Is Superman even capable of harming MUI Goku with everything equal? He'd just dodge everything. with UI, Speed equalized, you're not tagging an UI user period. Kefla had similar speeds to Goku but UI just said "lol **** you" and dodged everything no difficulty.

 

[Landon_Avery]

Superman can become intangible and has much higher stamina so he can easily out last Goku's UI form witch can crap out on him at any time, and leave him serverly weakend.

 

[Promestein]

Superman's a lot smarter, too.

 

[Schnee_One]

Superman becomes intangible

Goku runs out of UI

Superman Stomps Goku

Good Game

 

[Akreious]

Sorry, I keep reading this thread as EVERYTHING EQUALIZED. Not just Speed, Dura and AP.

Anyways, Goku has hit intangible beings before. Or at least blocked Intagible Attacks, whatever difference that makes. So that isn't very useful.

Everything is equal here. Durability and AP included. So with the amount of attacks Goku will be able to pull off on Superman before the time limit expires, pretty sure Superman won't have the option to outlast. Everything equalized simply means that he lacks the actual means to survive that long. Stamina is all well and good but that doesn't change Durability and how much damage you take.

 

[Promestein]

It changes what you can fight through and Superman can take a lot from Goku. Jiren was weaker and slower than MUI Goku, got his shit kicked in, and still outlasted him.

 

[Schnee_One]

He's blocked intangible attacks?

So he can't hurt an intangible?

So he just becomes 3A eventually and Superman one shots

Noice

 

[Landon_Avery]

It changes what you can fight through and Superman can take a lot from Goku. Jiren was weaker and slower than MUI Goku, got his shit kicked in, and still outlasted him.

And Superman has a healing ability.

 

[Schnee_One]

It changes what you can fight through and Superman can take a lot from Goku. Jiren was weaker and slower than MUI Goku, got his shit kicked in, and still outlasted him.

That was partially because Goku couldn't kill him

 

[Akreious]

It changes what you can fight through and Superman can take a lot from Goku. Jiren was weaker and slower than MUI Goku, got his shit kicked in, and still outlasted him.

Goku nowhere in his fight was willing to kill. It's literally against the rules of the Tournament.

Also, Limit Breaker Jiren was actually superior in strength and arguably speed initially and only Enraged MUI Goku stomped Jiren's face in. It took Goku stomping 100% Jiren, Goku getting stomped by Limit Breaker Jiren, and Goku stomping said Jiren before Goku finally got backlash'd.

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He's blocked intangible attacks?

So he can't hurt an intangible?

So he just becomes 3A eventually and Superman one shots

Noice"

What? Goku can block and hit intangible stuff. Just because this intangible thing is a being, that suddenly negates the ability to block and hit intangible shit? What?

 

[Promestein]

The fact that Jiren wasn't knocked out is the point.

 

[Schnee_One]

What? Goku can block and hit intangible stuff. Just because this intangible thing is a being, that suddenly negates the ability to block and hit intangible shit? What?

No it just means a character who can't hit an intangible, can't hit an intangible

 

[Schnee_One]

Also can we close this before it becomes a shit storm?

 

[Landon_Avery]

When exactly did Goku block an intangible attack anyway?

 

[Huesito88]

Hit

 

[Genericstickman]

This is turning into an actual Goku vs Superman debate

 

[Amexim]

Superman wins if he has superior Stamina.

Durability =/= endurance. Think of the difference between Physical Defense and HP in RPGs. If Superman has superior stamina, Goku loses by a war of attrition.

Remove UI from the initial situation and rate Base Goku and Superman to always be at equal AP, speed, and durability— with Superman raising his strength to meet Goku upon transformations, then it's about who has better stamina after THAT. MUI burns through stamina too fast to be useful in a fight like this.

 

[Schnee_One]

Under the sun it is infinite

 

[Abu2411]

Going For Goku via Hakai, which he will use once he runs out of energy from MUI.

 

[Huesito88]

@Abu2411 no

 

[Promestein]

Supes resists it anyways

 

[Abu2411]

@Huesito88 OK Daddy

 

[Amexim]

K. Supes wins.

Why is Supes 4-B? Is it because his 3-A feats in that version are far away from the more consistent major showings?

 

[Huesito88]

Yes

 

[Thelastmlg]

@abu2411 tell that to darkseid or mr mxyptlk (did i spell it right?)

equalized = hakai doesn't work

 

[Abu2411]

oh ok, then. But I am a bit confused, people are treating this like an actual debate but its in the Fun and Games board. I don't know whether to be serious or not I need help guys I need your support I need your everything.

 

[Huesito88]

Stats equalized matches usually are in the Fun and Games board.

 

[Akreious]

What? Goku can block and hit intangible stuff. Just because this intangible thing is a being, that suddenly negates the ability to block and hit intangible shit? What?

No it just means a character who can't hit an intangible, can't hit an intangible

The fact that someone hit something intagible means that this someone can hit something intangible.

 

[Akreious]

The fact that Jiren wasn't knocked out is the point.

This is actually a fairly dishonest viewpoint. Goku at the time of MUI was already completely exhausted and only got a minor stamina boost from Vegeta, who was also exhausted. Let me show you an example.

By the time of the first UIO De-transformation, Goku was already said to have been tired. Post 2nd UIO, Goku was flat out exhausted. Goku then proceeded to expend even more energy and even used 100% against Jiren for awhile before being flat out "Out of energy, cannot move" levels of exhausted. He got a minor stamina recharge from Vegeta (Who was tired himself) and got stomped down by Jiren, to which he went UIO once again then proceeded to go MUI.

As you can see that by the time of MUI Goku, he's already bat out tired and exhausted. The fact that Jiren outlasted him in this state should not be evidence against Goku.

 

[Schnee_One]

And since Goku never hit an intangible, the point is moot.

 

[Akreious]

Unlike people like Goku who can't.

... What?

Who else faced Hit in the same manner Goku did? And when did anyone else have the chance to hit something Intangible?

 

[Schnee_One]

Hit is Intangible?

Wait. No he isn't.

Why are you bringing him up?

 

[Huesito88]

One of his attacks are intangible.

 

[Schnee_One]

Hit himself isn't.

 

[Akreious]

So? He hit an intagible attack. He hit something intagible.

Just because a creature is intangible doesn't matter. An intangible thing was hit, in this case an attack.

you're literally saying the equivalent of "This person A can see through invisibility, but because he only saw through the invisibility of an Alien's Spaceship, a personal invisiblity would completely bypass Person A's ability to see through Invisibility"

 

[Schnee_One]

He didn't hit an intangible, he redirected an intangible attack, not the same thing, physically touching an intangible=/=Hurting it

Seeing an invisible thing regardless of what it is is exactly the same thing.

You think Goku can hit intangibles, make a CRT as it isn't even on his page.

 

[Jinsye]

>Someone makes Goku vs. Superman

>It's somehow not as toxic as I thought it would be.