Goku vs Shinra

[GarrixianXD]

Dudes, is Shinra's AE type 1 or 2 because if it's type 1 none of Xeno Goku's abilities are touching him

Evangelist has type 1 AE though how would that counter against everything Goku has?

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

That is why I said list all the wincons Shinra has since this kinda looks like stomp if Goku can't do anything

 

[GarrixianXD]

4D Layered Powernull basically nukes every wincon, and iirc it resists fate & causality bs. DD would basically make Shinra incapable of doing anything. and Keysword has Sealing.

But Shinra has AE Type 1, So unless Goku can somehow deal with that. Its basically not gonna work.

What are the requirements against Type 1 AE?

 

[GarrixianXD]

That is why I said list all the wincons Shinra has since this kinda looks like stomp if Goku can't do anything

Type 1 AE, Conceptual hax

tho it might be incon since Goku could also passively nuke everything shinra throws at him but Goku can’t do anything either

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Not sure if nuking will help thanks to Plot Manipulation

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

If Goku has no way of interacting with Shinza then this is a stomp. Keysword would maybe allow him to seal the realm Shinza's in, but even then, passive plot manip screws him over

 

[Arthex]

What are the requirements against Type 1 AE?

Well, from what I know, you need to have shown feats of affecting a AE Type 1. The only guy with AE Type 1 in DBH is Zamasu, and that guy isn't even Conceptual AE 1.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Well, from what I know, you need to have shown feats of affecting a AE Type 1. The only guy with AE Type 1 in DBH is Zamasu, and that guy isn't even Conceptual AE 1.

Mega oof then… also what do you mean by “Conceptual” AE 1?

 

[Arthex]

Mega oof then… also what do you mean by “Conceptual” AE 1?

Abstracts that embody and represent a concept. IE: Death from Castlevania Games, who is the literal concept of Death himself.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Abstracts that embody and represent a concept. IE: Death from Castlevania Games, who is the literal concept of Death himself.

Wouldn’t Zamasu embody the concept of “Justice” or “Kais” or whatsoever? Since Zamasu altered the concept of justice to his own perspective

 

[Arthex]

Wouldn’t Zamasu embody the concept of “Justice” or “Kais” or whatsoever? Since Zamasu altered the concept of justice to his own perspective

Was discussed here and removed, i am not sure why it was removed for dbh, since i thought dbh had more evidence of it being a concept.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Was discussed here and removed, i am not sure why it was removed for dbh, since i thought dbh had more evidence of it being a concept.

Bruh moment

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

Yeah DB atm can't affect conceptual abstracts so.....¯\(ツ)/¯

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[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Stomperino it is
Latom
To think Fire Force will get this haxed, who would've expected

 

[GarrixianXD]

Alright, get someone to close this

 

[Arthex]

Stomperino it is
Latom
To think Fire Force will get this haxed, who would've expected

I mean DBH went from being fodders in 2A to a pretty strong 2A, so.... I think the only area DBH lacks right now is in Concept and NEP stuff.

 

[GarrixianXD]

I mean DBH went from being fodders in 2A to a pretty strong 2A, so.... I think the only area DBH lacks right now is in Concept and NEP stuff.

I think they should be Low 1-C personally lmao but I guess it’ll never happen

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

I mean DBH went from being fodders in 2A to a pretty strong 2A, so.... I think the only area DBH lacks right now is in Concept and NEP stuff.

I mean with DBH majority was either not getting accepted or straight up changing the standards

 

[GarrixianXD]

I mean with DBH majority was either not getting accepted or straight up changing the standards

I call up those nerfs were bs but I’m too lazy to make another thread to counter it
Not to mention those revision thread with same arguments getting quite niche and repetitive

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Well Dragon Ball in general going through a massive overhaul so it will take a long time ( I heard someone mentioning Xeno Goku still missing some abilities and what not)

 

[GarrixianXD]

Well Dragon Ball in general going through a massive overhaul so it will take a long time ( I heard someone mentioning Xeno Goku still missing some abilities and what not)

Oh definitely
Take a look at Shallot’s profile lmao

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Closing since it's a stomp