Goku vs Shinra

[GarrixianXD]

Xeno Goku vs. ShinraBanshō-Man

Goku starts at his base form and does not have the keysword

Speed is equalized and both are bloodlusted

Goku:

Shinra:

get all chinamen off this wiki (incon):

 

[Robo432343]

passive stat/damage hax gg

i dont see any wincons for shinra

 

[Robo432343]

wait nvm shinra has HDE

 

[GarrixianXD]

wait nvm shinra has HDE

Idk if that would be somewhat effective since I’m sure everything Goku does is 4-D tho I’m sure he does have wincons with hax that Goku can’t resist like reality warping and type 1 conceptual manipulation

 

[GarrixianXD]

Bump

 

[Vietthai96]

Goku resist Demon God Power which superior to Dark Ki, and Dark Ki can warp reality. Is Shinra CM1 combat applicable???

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

This dude's got AE, but which type is it?

 

[Vietthai96]

nvm this is a stomp, this dude possibly have all of The Evangelists' abilities who has shit like passive causality, fate, plot, reality warp, subjective reality, info shit, and the conceptual AE1 make this even worse

 

[GarrixianXD]

nvm this is a stomp, this dude possibly have all of The Evangelists' abilities who has shit like passive causality, fate, plot, reality warp, subjective reality, info shit, and the conceptual AE1 make this even worse

How could passive plot deal with Goku? Btw, didn’t Goku resisted Fatehax before?

 

[GarrixianXD]

Bump

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

He does have it and also what's stopping Xeno from just summoning someone with keysword like Trunks?

 

[GarrixianXD]

He does have it and also what's stopping Xeno from just summoning someone with keysword like Trunks?

No keysword

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

No keysword

So no keysword for his summons as well? then there is also combining with True Form Tokitoki

 

[GarrixianXD]

So no keysword for his summons as well? then there is also combining with True Form Tokitoki

What would Tokitoki do
Ya, no keysword so no summoning either

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

What would Tokitoki do
Ya, no keysword so no summoning either

Summoning does not require keysword
Tokitoki grants an even better fate hax + sealing (Worked on Mechikabura who has HDE)
Pretty sure this Goku has many ways to put him down and the fact that he has 2A ap makes him kill with anything

 

[Vietthai96]

He got passive to hell and back before he can do anything

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

He got passive to hell and back before he can do anything

Like?

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Can someone make a list of wincons for Shinra?

 

[GarrixianXD]

Can someone make a list of wincons for Shinra?

passive plot hax would be the trump card here

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

passive plot hax

Where is Plot hax on his profile in the first place? Not even Fate or Causality manipulation to say he has plot hax

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Where is Plot hax on his profile in the first place? Not even Fate or Causality manipulation to say he has plot hax

• Plot Manipulation (Can alter the very structure of the story passively around them. Giving each character respective "roles" with them vanishing from existence once their designated "role" has been completed.)

In the Evengalist section

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Also how fast is it? because Goku also has his own passives

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

In the Evengalist section

Ok, my bad then, my bane when the powers are a part of a subset of ramifications, I normally look the tags

 

[Arthex]

Allowing Keysword would be a stomp, and not allowing it would also be a stomp.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Ok, so

if we count the evangelist powers, Shinra should win

If not, Goku wins, so I don´t know if this counts as inconclusive because it depends of giving a character certain powers that can be restricted

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Wouldn't be problem with Summoning since he can just summon bunch people at the same time to gang up on Shinra.

The only issue I can see is the CM Type 2

 

[Arthex]

Wouldn't be problem with Summoning since he can just summon bunch people at the same time to gang up on Shinra.

The only issue I can see is the CM Type 2

He has Passive Plot Hax, bruh. How will Goku summon anyone when he loses instantly? and Can Goku even interact with Conceptual AE?

 

[Vietthai96]

He has Passive Plot Hax, bruh. How will Goku summon anyone when he loses instantly? and Can Goku even interact with Conceptual AE?

he doesn't need to interact with the guy, just seal the realm along his opponent, however yeah, the opponent have passive plot, causality, fate hax shit which slam at goku face at the same time right at the start of the battle, Goku can't do anything

 

[GarrixianXD]

Also how fast is it? because Goku also has his own passives

What passives does Goku have here?

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

So what wincon Goku has?

 

[GarrixianXD]

So what wincon Goku has?

Possibly sealing

 

[GarrixianXD]

This sound like an utter stomp, should I give Goku the keysword then?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

vanishing from existence once their designated "role" has been completed

Damn, I had forgotten how genius and funny that scene is

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

What passives does Goku have here?

DD, passive layered power null and stats manipulation

 

[GarrixianXD]

DD, passive layered power null and stats manipulation

What’s DD?
Maybe Power Nullification could do something?

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

What’s DD?
Maybe Power Nullification could do something?

Dimensional Domain ( Sets stamina to 1 which works on people with infinite stamina) as soon as they do anything are pretty much incap

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

Dudes, is Shinra's AE type 1 or 2 because if it's type 1 none of Xeno Goku's abilities are touching him

 

[GarrixianXD]

Dimensional Domain ( Sets stamina to 1 which works on people with infinite stamina) as soon as they do anything are pretty much incap

Doesn’t sound helpful

 

[Arthex]

What’s DD?
Maybe Power Nullification could do something?

4D Layered Powernull basically nukes every wincon, and iirc it resists fate & causality bs. DD would basically make Shinra incapable of doing anything. and Keysword has Sealing.

But Shinra has AE Type 1, So unless Goku can somehow deal with that. Its basically not gonna work.

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Dudes, is Shinra's AE type 1 or 2 because if it's type 1 none of Xeno Goku's abilities are touching him

It is type 1

• Abstract Existence (Type 1; Is the final point of imagination and the embodiment with the collective unconscious of all of humanity. Culminating ultimately into the very concept of despair itself.)