Goku vs Garou

[Kachon123]

This guy wanking to the nth degree.

 

[Arceus0x]

First of all , everyone agrees that Garou wins but you keep bringing up Bs which I felt like needed to get debunked.

You said , he isn't a genius and doesnt use stat . It was a general statement which was an utter brainfart as proven above.

ahhhhh yes, incredible, i was SUPPOSED to know that your favorite lil goku had that specific feat in that specific instance WHEN IM NOT A F-ING DRAGON BALL FAN! TOTALLY LOGICAL AND NOT THE LOGIC OF SOMEONE WITH aight imma stop here.

1) "Powerlevel stuff" XDDD Running out of arguments aren't we?

fighting caulifla when she matched ssj2 is simply an AP feat, not a skill feat, matching broly is an ap feat ect.

2) "few gifted level feats" Still beyond anything Garou has shown. Tell me ? Did Garou ever beat someone who has more than million times his AP or predict infinite speed attacks with finite speed? If yes, I concede.

first, when did goku every defeat someone who has millions of times his AP? Beerus? Never beat him.
Second...infinite attacks? But you said immeasurable literally a message above? Bruh.
Also if it is infinite speed then how come is Hit only MFTL+ and how come is it that Goku ended up with time stop resistance? Predicting attacks is indeed a skill feat but that's not genius intelligence.

Goku outlasting Tien isn't Ki control. It was addressed as a Skill feat. Also him using Kamehameha has nothing to do with Ki control. He didn't even know Pre-Kami Training what Ki was.

tien is good n all but i still see no evidence for genius in that exact feat.
Kamehameha worked for him because he had an affinity for ki and martial arts, like, cool, he managed to figure out how to mix ki into a ball and fire a beam using it, where exactly is that genius?

Anyways i don't even mind genius skill goku, however what i do mind is going full apebrain when i dared downplay a character im not an expert on because you just so happen to like em.
Go put your head under cool water, cool it, and then get back to arguing and talking like a normal human being and not a tiktok battleboarder.

 

[First_Witch]

Behave people, it's just skill

 

[SirAlex09]

Most of things you said don't apply to Goku in this key.

I am refering to the comment below not to the thread.

Goku on the other hand isn't really genius but rather more extremely gifted since he doesn't really use any crazy strats and at best he has shown to be very capable in close quarters combat.

This has nothing to do with the debate and is an key independant statement . Goku is listed as genius in all keys and according to the Person above Goku doesn't qualify for it , which I debunked.

Kamehameha worked for him because he had an affinity for ki and martial arts, like, cool, [..], where exactly is that genius?

That's like saying: Einstein has an affinity for maths and physics. This doesn't make him a genius. Oversimplification from your side doesn't discredit it as a feat.

fighting caulifla when she matched ssj2 is simply an AP feat, not a skill feat, matching broly is an ap feat ect.

Going to toe to toe whom you are severely weaker than is an AP feat? Don't let that Captain America or Batman hear. Not to mention Vados directly references his superior skill.

tien is good n all but i still see no evidence for genius in that exact feat.

Outskilling someone who is faster , stronger and have enhanced perception isn't genius? Mastering a technique that took 50 years to master in an instant isn't genius?

Anyways i don't even mind genius skill goku, however what i do mind is going full apebrain when i dared downplay a character im not an expert on because you just so happen to like em.
Go put your head under cool water, cool it, and then get back to arguing and talking like a normal human being and not a tiktok battleboarder.

Okay gotta admit the way you wrote it is pretty fun. Had to laugh " Tiktok battleboarder" lmfao

first, when did goku every defeat someone who has millions of times his AP? Beerus? Never beat him.
Second...infinite attacks? But you said immeasurable literally a message above? Bruh.
Also if it is infinite speed then how come is Hit only MFTL+ and how come is it that Goku ended up with time stop resistance? Predicting attacks is indeed a skill feat but that's not genius intelligence.

1) Base Goku versus Ikari Broly who is SSJG tier in terms of strength and speed as he was stronger than SSJG Vegeta who is equal to Goku in power and speed in the same form.
SSJG as a sole power increase boosted Goku from 4B to 3A btw.

2) When Hit uses time skip, time flows for him normally while it's stopped for everyone else which is by definition that kind of speed and Goku predicted where his attacks would land. This has nothing to do with his resistance to time stop which refers to when Goku Kaioken x20 overpowered Time Stop as a whole.

 

[Arceus0x]

that's definitely a better argument, though at this point I don't even care about this since its all done and dandy. Imma go back to finishing that episode of moon knight.

 

[SirAlex09]

that's definitely a better argument, though at this point I don't even care about this since its all done and dandy. Imma go back to finishing that episode of moon knight.

Uff mate. Never tell me what you are going to watch. I spoilered Avengers Endgame in the Cinema

 

[Arceus0x]

Uff mate. Never tell me what you are going to watch. I spoilered Avengers Endgame in the Cinema

you're a jackass but one with balls of infinity stones

 

[Gumball_Ushiromiya]

.....so....what now?

 

[SuperStar]

.....so....what now?

Naruto Vs. Garou

 

[Gumball_Ushiromiya]

Naruto Vs. Garou

I guess peace was never an option

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Naruto Vs. Garou

Please no. Naruto can't do anything to this Garou unless it's War Arc SPSM Naruto and even then that's solely due to Hax like TSO.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

People ask for Goku skill feats so here is some.
Goku isn't bright academically but he is a genius when it comes to anything combat related. He was trained by master martial artist such as Son Gohan, Muten Roshi, Kaio, and even Whis. When he was a kid, he was capable of copying techniques even master martial artist found difficult to learn most of the time by seeing them only once, such as when learned the kamehameha after seeing it once, a feat which took roshi, the best martial artist in the world, 50 years.[73] He can easily beat martial arts masters who can beat other master martial artists without getting tagged once, such as korin who roshi couldn't tag him for 3 years to get water,[74] a feat that took Goku only 3 days and then surpassed korin,[75] or king chappa who won the budokai without getting tagged once.[76] He is able to make up martial arts on the spot such as when he created the mad fist,[77] or when he recreated King Chappa's martial arts by simply watching him use it once.
He is an incredibly acrobatic fighter who is able to perform skillful manoeuvres such as falling from great heights and landing safely by swing on branches or landing on his toes,[5] or changing his momentum instantly such as getting punched and sent flying then using that momentum to lauch a counter attack,[78] he learned how to prevent any wasted movements so that even after an intense fight he will not be fatigued at all.[79] He is an incredibly analytical fighter always looking ahead in a fight and conserving his energy.[80]

He can deduce fighters strength level and skill by merely watching them fight while heavily suppressed such as when he figured out tien was a match for roshi[81] or when he saw piccolo fight fodder and accurately deduced his strength,[82] the latter did the same to him.[83] He is able to figure out the flaws of the SSJ forms and deduce that SSJ G1 is the best SSJ grade and mastered it.[84]

He can learn but also improve techniques sometimes mid fight to suit the situation he's in for example when he copied roshi's afterimage bluff and improved it to beat roshi with his own technique[77] or when he used the kamehameha to boost himself mid air[85] or even with his feet.[86] He was so skilled that he matched cell in combat and the latter even praised him for his ability[87] despite the fact that Cell is a combination of him as well as many other strong fighters on his level and knows all of their abilities and techniques including their weaknesses.[88]

He was praised by Beerus as a genius for being so experienced so as to use ultra Instinct unconsciously.[89] He mastered ultra instinct in less than 48 minutes,[46] a feat that destroyers, who live for hundreds of millions of years, cannot easily perform.[90] He's able to read an opponents intentions and predict the movements of Hit, who has 1000 years of assassination experience, during time stop.[91] He can fight opponents much faster and stronger than him such as Granolah[92] or Gas and keep up with them via sheer skill[93] the former being able to one shot him.[94] He was able to create such minute movements so as to avoid Granolah's pressure point attacks from hitting his vitals which could defeat him in one attack since he couldn't dodge them completely.[92]
The references and scans are all here:
https://joke-battles.fandom.com/wiki/Son_Goku_(Wank)?so=search

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Since this is a stomp going off several comments, I'll be closing this thread.