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Hi, this is my first Vsbattle page so I'd like your attention on this post. We're going to see where Gokū's level is in speed according to the Vsbattle criteria.
As we know, in chapter 84 of Dragon Ball Super we are told that Granolah has a raw speed superior to Teleportation (instantaneous movement).
A Teleportation as we know it within the Vsbattle is indexed like Instantaneously and we know that instantaneous possesses like meaning of word to the literary sense ‘whitout any delay’ which will thus define a timeframe 0. To make simple my interpretation of the settings Vsbattle are based on Teleportations being able to be carried out in a lapse of time finite such as displacements in 0 delay (TF 0).
Vsbattle assimilate themselves a Teleportation as being instantaneous in the sense whitout time it is ‘Immediately’ however in certain cases the instantaneous displacements (Teleportation) rather current are displacements in space such as the spatial Teleportation. But in my case, Gokū doesn't have a Space Teleport but a real TP, so given that my Gokū doesn't move in space using the TP but literally to attack between point A and B on his enemies. So the ‘whitout space’ meaning cannot be attributed but rather the ‘whitout time’ meaning Gokū travelled X distance in a finite amount of time.
To sum up my interpretation, according to Vsbattle in the trivia section we are informed that the differences between the infinite speed and immeasurable criteria are: one moves instantaneously in a finite period of time (infinite speed criterion) whereas the other criterion moves the same way even faster than in 0 time.
faster than in 0 time as explained in this section : On Infinite Speed, Immeasurable Speed and How They Compare
Moreover it is important to note that flash comics is said to be immeasurable speed being faster than a Teleportation by its raw speed, and I specify that I speak about raw speed and not travel speed we can. So Granolah has a raw speed higher than a travel in time 0 and therefore it is defeated by Vega and we know via the scaling chain and scans that Gokū is a level higher than Granolah stats (power + speed) so covets to be positioned immeasurable.
Subject to interpretation?
It is recommended as a criterion for an immeasurable baseline that it perceives the infinite speed criterion as frozen.
To answer that, he doesn't see them as fixed because the manga simply doesn't give us his point of view. It's a question of staging and reference point, so we have a reference point from the reader's point of view. When we read the manga we read it as if a camera were following the characters, hence the fact that we don't see anything frozen, we simply don't have access to Granolah's POV just as we wouldn't have access to Gokū's POV or who knows who.
As readers we have an OUTSIDE and NOT an INSIDE point of view
and so he shows the scenes from an outside point of view.
When Hit ‘freezes’ time, he sees his opponent motionless, yet the characters around him can talk and discuss, time isn't stopped for them - we simply don't have Granolah's POV etc.
And it's not the manga that's frozen, the problem is the multiple interpretations we make of it. A statement in a manga is interpreted differently by different people, and I don't need to prove that point, it's just logical, otherwise everyone would agree and no one would debate, right?
Why do you think Vsbw have a statements and hyperbole section? Precisely because statements are open to interpretation, it's as simple as that
As we know, in chapter 84 of Dragon Ball Super we are told that Granolah has a raw speed superior to Teleportation (instantaneous movement).
A Teleportation as we know it within the Vsbattle is indexed like Instantaneously and we know that instantaneous possesses like meaning of word to the literary sense ‘whitout any delay’ which will thus define a timeframe 0. To make simple my interpretation of the settings Vsbattle are based on Teleportations being able to be carried out in a lapse of time finite such as displacements in 0 delay (TF 0).
Vsbattle assimilate themselves a Teleportation as being instantaneous in the sense whitout time it is ‘Immediately’ however in certain cases the instantaneous displacements (Teleportation) rather current are displacements in space such as the spatial Teleportation. But in my case, Gokū doesn't have a Space Teleport but a real TP, so given that my Gokū doesn't move in space using the TP but literally to attack between point A and B on his enemies. So the ‘whitout space’ meaning cannot be attributed but rather the ‘whitout time’ meaning Gokū travelled X distance in a finite amount of time.
To sum up my interpretation, according to Vsbattle in the trivia section we are informed that the differences between the infinite speed and immeasurable criteria are: one moves instantaneously in a finite period of time (infinite speed criterion) whereas the other criterion moves the same way even faster than in 0 time.
faster than in 0 time as explained in this section : On Infinite Speed, Immeasurable Speed and How They Compare
Moreover it is important to note that flash comics is said to be immeasurable speed being faster than a Teleportation by its raw speed, and I specify that I speak about raw speed and not travel speed we can. So Granolah has a raw speed higher than a travel in time 0 and therefore it is defeated by Vega and we know via the scaling chain and scans that Gokū is a level higher than Granolah stats (power + speed) so covets to be positioned immeasurable.
Subject to interpretation?
It is recommended as a criterion for an immeasurable baseline that it perceives the infinite speed criterion as frozen.
To answer that, he doesn't see them as fixed because the manga simply doesn't give us his point of view. It's a question of staging and reference point, so we have a reference point from the reader's point of view. When we read the manga we read it as if a camera were following the characters, hence the fact that we don't see anything frozen, we simply don't have access to Granolah's POV just as we wouldn't have access to Gokū's POV or who knows who.
As readers we have an OUTSIDE and NOT an INSIDE point of view
and so he shows the scenes from an outside point of view.
When Hit ‘freezes’ time, he sees his opponent motionless, yet the characters around him can talk and discuss, time isn't stopped for them - we simply don't have Granolah's POV etc.
And it's not the manga that's frozen, the problem is the multiple interpretations we make of it. A statement in a manga is interpreted differently by different people, and I don't need to prove that point, it's just logical, otherwise everyone would agree and no one would debate, right?
Why do you think Vsbw have a statements and hyperbole section? Precisely because statements are open to interpretation, it's as simple as that
