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Goku infinite speed
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Excellence616
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Did Hit manipulate Time to 0?
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He said he stopped time
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Because it's more likely to just be resistance? Especially as he already established resistance prior to Hit's stuff. And the fact DBS dudes are demonstrably not infinite in speed, as evidenced by like, everything after that point ngl.
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Impressed by the stopping of time, Goku quickly responded and ran towards him
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Yes and?
Let me put it this way, why would it be Infinite speed instead of just resistance? What is there to actually indicate it's through sheer speed instead of resistance?
Mind you, if it is Infinite speed, all that means is Goku loses his time stop resistance and gets nothing because Infinite speed is a demonstrable outlier due to following events like the whole of the ToP.
Let me put it this way, why would it be Infinite speed instead of just resistance? What is there to actually indicate it's through sheer speed instead of resistance?
Mind you, if it is Infinite speed, all that means is Goku loses his time stop resistance and gets nothing because Infinite speed is a demonstrable outlier due to following events like the whole of the ToP.
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Stop time?
That would be resistance to time manipulation.
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Goku is directly affected by this feature and then responds with speed
The same is seen in Adam, who reacts by running, and the stopping of time does not affect characters with infinite speed.
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Stopping time movement does not always give resistance but also speed, what I am presenting is that goku is affected by the stopping of time and reacts with speed.
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Adam had a similar feat, in which he was reacting in zero time, Zeus with his fist stopped the time of the entire audience and even the birds to reach Adam, it is accepted as infinite speed, no I know how Goku does not have infinite speed through this, since moving in zero time of infinite speed.
Basically people forced the manga thing into the anime, where ability is circumvented by higher Ki in the manga, in the anime it's much more different, where there's no mention of that at all.
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I think goku should reach infinite speed from here, but what do you think?
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Stopping time is equivalent to 0 time because where time stops there is no flow of time.
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A time stop doesn't have zero time, does it? Since time doesn't run, resulting in zero time there, just use your head.
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Shinra was moving in Sho domain when he stopped time but he just needed ftl speed.
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I don't understand anything about infinite speed, but it seems a lot like infinite speed and there's no way to force the manga on top of Hitto's ability, and in the Hitto manga it is mentioned that his ability is circumvented by greater power, since in the anime this never happened.
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So he got resistance
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You realize it's case by case right? There's likely actual added context that dictates his was an actual speed feat, bringing up other verses and simplifying the reason something got added isn't how we do things. So I ask again, what here implicates it being done through raw speed, instead of resistance, something Goku had already demonstrated prior mind you.
And then explain why this alleged infinite feat, even if true, wouldn't be discarded due to the like 50 anti-feats that exist?
And then explain why this alleged infinite feat, even if true, wouldn't be discarded due to the like 50 anti-feats that exist?
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I can explain the anti ability thing like this, the high priest says that there is no time in infinite space and it is clear that it is stupid to get an anti ability from here, goku was affected by the stopping of time, vegeta jiren was affected by this ability, but none of them responded by using their speed, jiren got rid of this ability by using his power, vegeta could not do anything, sace goku got rid of this time stopping by using his speed, I do not understand why this gives resistance.
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Before any Character can be given infinite speed
The Character must
Move faster than time (like Quicksilver)
Move at zero time (adam)
Cover infinite distance within a finite amount of time
Prove that Hit time stop was Zero time.
The Character must
Move faster than time (like Quicksilver)
Move at zero time (adam)
Cover infinite distance within a finite amount of time
Prove that Hit time stop was Zero time.
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After the manga is applied to 2-C we will be discussing infinite velocity as the velocity calculations become invalid.
So don't do anything until you finish the 2-C manga CRT
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It's a little hard to be a manga 2c, isn't it? I'll wait for infinite speed, but where are you talking about this? I think you have a DB group.
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You realize you basically just argued that an infinitely weaker Goku is faster than both Vegeta and Jiren (who blitzed a faster Goku) is somehow slower than the Goku that moved in Hit's time stop.
You didn't explain anything, you just gave evidence for why it's just a type of resistance.
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Because it's an outlier
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Jiren is already faster than Goku, but Jiren used his power there and responded with speed like Goku.
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Yeah no, Jiren is casually blitzing a Goku who's far, far, beyond the Goku in the alleged infinite speed feat. While fighting Hit, a character who at this point in time is casually above the Goku with the alleged infinite feat. You're trying to tell me that when Jiren got hit with time stop, he went "hmm, i know, ill hold back my speed a literal infinite amount even though just a second ago i was moving at infinite speeds".
You realize that literally everyone above Goku Black Arc Goku would be infinite speed casually right? And by proxy immune to time stop? Despite the fact that's evidently not the case.
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The reason Adam has infinite speed is because he can react and copy Zeus' technique, which allow the user to perform an attack in 0s, the attack manifests as sheer speed instead of hax
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This thread can be closed
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on the adam point: adam demonstrated that he could react AND copy the moves and speed during his fight then on top of that we get a timer for them, so adam has solid evidence on him
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Seems fair
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yeah db characters have infinite speed
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