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Godzilla Upgrade
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Yea there is a 4-B calc
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Wrong. Normal Heisei is 5-A bare minimum. That calculation was for a meltdown stated immature as Godzilla continued to grow stronger the longer he was alive, not to mention only calculates what was shown in the simulation while later on the entire planet was stated to be what Godzilla would destroy. I've calculated that a few times, getting Low to High 4-C results. He's also stated to have more energy in his body than anything since the Big Bang, making the supernova SpaceGodzilla stuff very consistent as well as the calculation.
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Actually it'd be High 6-A. I did that calc and it was revised and dropped about 40%.
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Heisei is only 5-A via meltdown
Burning heisei normally is 5-B.
Even if this CRT gets accepted (which is heavily unlikely) it will probably be Low 4-C
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Also i didn't said before,but my vote goes to opponent
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Again incorrect. 5-A for base is rather reasonable via canon upscaling, a SpaceGodzilla feat Gallavant calculated on the old forum, and the fact the calc is again a lowball. Burning is definitely 5-A or higher.
Yeah it probably won't, don't really care. The arguments against it are garbage.
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Prove it. You don't get to throw around words you don't know just to sound smart. Prove it's hyperbole.
The reality is Doomsday's above solar system anyway, Cell's fine, dunno Mega Man and he's at least this high.
No he's not. I'd annihilate you in any debate on the matter.
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If its possible he did absorb 4-C energy, i don’t see a problem with a ”possibly” rating, after all, thats what possibly means.
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He didnt, thats th ntire reason we are having this debate
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But he did that on the game.
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Because he has no feats,movie statements and evidences to show that power
AKA exaggeration,which is hyperbole.
At this point you're just wanking him to 4-B. Whats next? Heisei Godzilla beating Zero?
Heisei Godzilla is nowhere near tier 4.
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No he ins't. Cell,Doomsday and Zero would obliterate heisei godzilla in seconds due to him being only 5-A at best.
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I don’t know the context but this really has nothing to a CRT and is redundant. I know it is a response, but it is getting the thread off-topic
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the context is that godzilla king of the monsters 2019 thinks heisei godzilla has ""more energy than anything since the big bang"" thus,solar system level and thinks that he could stand a chance against those three
even tho its cleary a outlier
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if its because of the black hole in STE then i kinda neutral
because that black hole was more of a portal than a black hole itself
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It was a black hole that sucked SpaceGodzilla, but it can work as a portal, just like Netflix Ghidorah's.
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tbh,pipeworks verse should be upgraded
but it's for another time
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Nobody cares if X or Y character beats Godzilla Heisei.
Plus that is NO relevant to the thread.
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i was just respoding to the messange,i know its not relevant then just ignore itNobody cares if X or Y character beats Godzilla Heisei.
Plus that is NO relevant to the thread.
Do you even know the context of that messange? Because i dont think so
Also they would care,this website is literally called VS BATTLES WIKI
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Yes,but in a vs thread they would
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Please stop talking other subjects here..
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And this is not a vs thread, let's not go off-topic.
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Space Godzilla has characteristic manipulation over the particles "Photon" and "Graviton."
進化生物学教授、権藤千夏の見解では、ブラツクホールに飲み込まれたG細胞が、ホワイトホールから放出される過程で急速に進化、その中で結晶生物を取り込み、さらに恒星の爆発による超エネルギーを浴びて、想像を絶する生命が誕生したのではないかとされている。スペースゴジラが、結晶生物の特性である重力子と光子の2大粒子のコントロール能力を持つているのも、そのためと考えられるのだ。
進化生物学教授、権藤千夏の見解では、ブラツクホールに飲み込まれたG細胞が、ホワイトホールから放出される過程で急速に進化、その中で結晶生物を取り込み、さらに恒星の爆発による超エネルギーを浴びて、想像を絶する生命が誕生したのではないかとされている。スペースゴジラが、結晶生物の特性である重力子と光子の2大粒子のコントロール能力を持つているのも、そのためと考えられるのだ。
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Except he DOES.
Not an exaggeration at all. Prove it was wrong.
It's not wank when I'm right and all the arguments against it are garbage.
He is tier 4. Every counter was debunked.
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Yes he is. 5-A is a lowball for reasons explained prior. Appealing to the multi-year old calc is stupid since it's missing a lot of context and again also much higher than 5-A anyway.
Make a good argument. This is ad infinitum and stupid.
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proof that he has "more energy than anything since the big bang"
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its not a lowball,thats his maximum power.
most of the statements are from video games (non canon material) or from the movie,however,it doens't say he used ALL the energy of the "supernovaes",it says that he got exposed to them. which means their radiation made him grow and grow until he turned to the thing as we know it. its not a AP feat,sure,you could say he absorbed the energy of a dead star,but that is Tier 6,not tier 4.
according to your logic,Humans are 4-C because they get exposed to the sun everyday,which is not the case. being exposed to supernovaes doens't make someone tier 4.
he got sucked into a black hole,absorbed the energy of a dead star to create his body (High 6-A),used the radiation of supernovaes to grow his body and bada bing bada boom thats how spaceG was created
and once again,no he inst,as he's fodder compared to those three (which would solo all of the heisei era btw),the biggest thing you can get from the supernova thing is Low 4-C to 4-C,which means its still fodder.
also you could stop calling people "stupid",its just makes you childish and rude and will add nothing to the debate,just make people think you're annoying and rude.
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no you're arent,you just putting some random statement from somewhere and saying its true,when its heavily contradicted by the real feats as Heisei Godzilla is only 5-A at best. (could be High 5-A via meltdown)
and before you say "but its not! as multiple statements say it! you're just stupid because its not exaggeration!"
except it is because NOTHING in the movie says that he has ""more energy than anything"",at this point you're just using some vague statement that makes no sense as Heisei Godzilla is only tier 5-A at best and Low 4-C to 4-C with composite,the star shit only applies to composite because the humans literally dont know how spaceG was formed,meaning their theory can be wrong. theories arent always right,you cant say "but the book says it!" because the books were also talking about the theory,which once again
so you cant really use them,you can only use tier 4 heisei godzilla for composite heisei godzilla,normal heisei godzilla at best is 5-A
composite heisei is Low 4-C to 4-C
you cant say your opinion is always right,it once again makes you childish.
for example:
i say: "i dont like this movie"
the other person says: "you're lying because i like this movie"
which is the same thing when you say your opinion is the only one correct.
the statements are kinda the same thing with 4-B Cell statements. however,in Cell's case,it actually makes sense as he was far stronger than any of the Z Fighters,was already Large Star Level+ and he HIMSELF stated that he could do that.
SpaceG supernova thing on the contrary ins't as he has no real feats involving that level and the only supposed "feat" is a theory that the humans created,same people who never saw or know how spaceG was formed,the book statements also applies for the humans statement logic
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"A BURST OF ENERGY UNSEEN SINCE TIME BEGAN" this was also WAY prior to when he was supposed to die, so this isn't his max either. Don't bother harping on the 'n-nuke weak!' because ONE nuclear bomb got him from baseline multi-continent all the way up to multiple times planetary. Unless his energy absorption is EXPONENTIAL, then these are some strong nukes. And if you do claim the former, this gives Spacegodzilla a better case anyway.
Literally stated the meltdown would destroy the entire planet via a rodied up version of the China Syndrome which is MUCH higher than the 5-A calc for making the hole (again got this to at least High 5-A to Low 4-C) so no 5-A isn't his max. 5-A was not only DAYS prior to his actual death but stated verbatim to be 'at the time' 5-A was for melting a hole into the planet, the whole thing would destroy ALL of the planet. Not to mention it also got High 5-A for the same thing.
Not only is this not true but it's also dishonest. The film, the books talking about the films and interviews about the film confirm that this origin is true, he absorbed the energy of the explosions (why you would assume the absolute bare minimum is illogical) and this human comparison is a complete strawman. For one, the Sun didn't blow up. Two, we're exposed to light, not the Sun's fission/fusion. So this is idiotic as a counter.
You can appeal to the outdated profile all you want, I have the proof I'm right and your arguments are garbage.
'Theory tho' was debunked weeks ago. Catch up before you open your mouth.
Not really. They're not above his pay grade at all. Let's see how you do outside of the echo chamber in a debate.
I don't care about rude when you keep repeating the same debunked points day in and out. Stop saying stupid shit and I'll stop saying it's stupid.
Literally stated the meltdown would destroy the entire planet via a rodied up version of the China Syndrome which is MUCH higher than the 5-A calc for making the hole (again got this to at least High 5-A to Low 4-C) so no 5-A isn't his max. 5-A was not only DAYS prior to his actual death but stated verbatim to be 'at the time' 5-A was for melting a hole into the planet, the whole thing would destroy ALL of the planet. Not to mention it also got High 5-A for the same thing.
Not only is this not true but it's also dishonest. The film, the books talking about the films and interviews about the film confirm that this origin is true, he absorbed the energy of the explosions (why you would assume the absolute bare minimum is illogical) and this human comparison is a complete strawman. For one, the Sun didn't blow up. Two, we're exposed to light, not the Sun's fission/fusion. So this is idiotic as a counter.
You can appeal to the outdated profile all you want, I have the proof I'm right and your arguments are garbage.
'Theory tho' was debunked weeks ago. Catch up before you open your mouth.
Not really. They're not above his pay grade at all. Let's see how you do outside of the echo chamber in a debate.
I don't care about rude when you keep repeating the same debunked points day in and out. Stop saying stupid shit and I'll stop saying it's stupid.
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in what sense? it clearly doenst mean its just the big bang,it can also refer that its recorded history
plus,i know the nuke was not weak.
also how did he knew this? it was only stated once and never more,you cant use it since its vague.
this looks fine
its clearly the radiation of the supernovas,he didn't absorbed them.
he "absorbed the energy of a dying star",not multiple stellar explosions,its high 6-A
if you dont care then you are probably going to get warned.
its only stupid to you just because you disagree with it,even tho you're the one here saying that he is more powerful than a black hole collision,a gamma ray burst and a hypernova. which inst the case.
Low 4-C seems ok to me,but 4-B is simply absurd
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ok then,High 5-A to Low 4-C Heisei seems fine
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i dunno,but that would probably mean a stronger gravity manipulation
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also yes they are. they would beat him to death WITH THEIR BARE HANDS IN SECONDS,but lets not talk it here since its off topic
according to these non sensical statements,heisei godzilla is as strong as something like this
which he inst,since he's only High 5-A to Low 4-C at best.
but all of this talk is probably useless,since its heavily likely that this CRT will not be accepted
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