Godzilla profile revision.

[00potato]

Ya boy Godzilla has a duck ton of profiles.
I mean look at this, https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Godzilla_(Disambiguation)
Let’s see how many fit the crossover and canon rules.
Many, such as the mobile crossovers or literal pachinko machines, are kinda irrelevant and the rules state that we really don’t want a swarm of irrelevant profiles.
I definitely want to keep all the movies, and any crossovers where he is important to the scaling or fused with evangelion because obviously.

Just so you know look at the rules for both.

Canon

Canon is a term used to designate works that are generally accepted as the genuine work that apply to the fictional verse. With few possible exceptions only canon material is featured in the character pages, with non-canon material to be ignored. The generally agreed-upon definition is that the...

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Crossovers

A crossover is the placement of two or more characters originating from different continuities/franchises/verses into a single story. Non-canon crossovers do not officially take place within any of the involved continuities. Examples may include Marvel Vs Capcom, Mortal Kombat Vs DC Universe, or...

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[Dinoanime7]

Not really. This is an official Godzilla incarnation because it’s LICENSED by Toho

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

Pachinko's Godzilla has its own story with footage in suit and CGI from Toho themselves, no reason for it to be considered a waste.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Pachinko literally has:

1. Different origin story

2. Feats

3. And even new transformations

Also Symphogear is CANON to the Symphogear game.

 

[Armorchompy]

You know, I was looking through the profiles, and some have... questionable justifications for ratings. I mean, this one and this one don't have justifications, past "uh yeah he broke a building and he is large so he is large building level : )"

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

Goji '54's got some calcs that could be checked out.

My question is what's on the chopping block? Movies and main games I think should stay without question as well as any canon crossovers.

 

[00potato]

Rule 4 kinda says no.

“Franchises which contain non-canonical spin-offs/movies/videogames, et cetera, each with their own continuities and feats, yet not to the extent that Marvel and DC Comics do, should only be allowed profiles for notable original characters from said spin-offs, and not alternate versions of canonical characters, unless they are very prominent and notable.”
I mean a slightly different version of Godzilla from an obscure, yet admittedly kinda neat pachinko machine isn’t exactly notable.
Especially since it leans towards original characters.

“Also look at these from the canon page
However, if it is obscure, does not have enough of a distinctive story to even qualify as a separate character (such as if it originates within a fighting game), and very limited information to scale the statistics from, it should likely not be featured.”
And
“However, problem can arise from this: If one were to allow all alternate and/or non-canon versions of said characters, we would eventually be crowded with dozens of alternate profiles for the same characters, as well as composite profiles that cross-scale across multiple continuities and inflate the number of pages even more.”

It is clear the point of these rules are to prevent bloated profile amounts, especially for ones that aren’t unique or notable.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

You know, I was looking through the profiles, and some have... questionable justifications for ratings. I mean, this one and this one don't have justifications, past "uh yeah he broke a building and he is large so he is large building level : )"

Maybe the "first key" of Godzilla 98 needs a calc

But Godzilla 54 literally has a calc to back up any power level

 

[Armorchompy]

Maybe the "first key" of Godzilla 98 needs a calc

But Godzilla 54 literally has a calc to back up any power level

That's fine by me, link it to the profile, though.

 

[00potato]

Goji '54's got some calcs that could be checked out.

My question is what's on the chopping block? Movies and main games I think should stay without question as well as any canon crossovers.

Movies and main games: of course, especially since some of them have unique characters (Bagan and Obsidius.) that would scale to the main cast.

Pretty much any minor or obscure game/book profile, especially one-off mobile crossovers, should be on the chopping block. Unless they are super unique, like the Eva ones, or important to scaling.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Rule 4 kinda says no.

“Franchises which contain non-canonical spin-offs/movies/videogames, et cetera, each with their own continuities and feats, yet not to the extent that Marvel and DC Comics do, should only be allowed profiles for notable original characters from said spin-offs, and not alternate versions of canonical characters, unless they are very prominent and notable.”
I mean a slightly different version of Godzilla from an obscure, yet admittedly kinda neat pachinko machine isn’t exactly notable.
Especially since it leans towards original characters.

“Also look at these from the canon page
However, if it is obscure, does not have enough of a distinctive story to even qualify as a separate character (such as if it originates within a fighting game), and very limited information to scale the statistics from, it should likely not be featured.”
And
“However, problem can arise from this: If one were to allow all alternate and/or non-canon versions of said characters, we would eventually be crowded with dozens of alternate profiles for the same characters, as well as composite profiles that cross-scale across multiple continuities and inflate the number of pages even more.”

It is clear the point of these rules are to prevent bloated profile amounts, especially for ones that aren’t unique or notable.

He has new transformation and powers soo...

Also he is not a crossover

 

[00potato]

He has new transformation and powers soo...

Also he is not a crossover

I was referring to many of the mobile crossovers like dragon quest and 47 Heroines.

Also the new transformation is kinda a small change, and not really anything unique. Since it’s mostly stats, same with the small amount of new abilities.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

I was referring to many of the mobile crossovers like dragon quest and 47 Heroines.

Also the new transformation is kinda a small change, and not really anything unique. Since it’s mostly stats, same with the small amount of new abilities.

However he has his own feats like destroying that meteorite, fighting Keizer Ghidorah, Destroyah, Heodrah, Biollante, Gigan and King Ghidorah in a row.

Also again he has a different back story and a new transformation.

 

[00potato]

Yeah, that’s all just stats.

He fights most of them in the mainline series anyway.
Not any meaningful differences. Even the transformation is mostly stats.

 

[Armorchompy]

Just a difference in AP isn't enough for a profile, this is why we don't have JoJo anime profiles (they're actually tier 7 lol)

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

Movies and main games: of course, especially since some of them have unique characters (Bagan and Obsidius.) that would scale to the main cast.

Pretty much any minor or obscure game/book profile, especially one-off mobile crossovers, should be on the chopping block. Unless they are super unique, like the Eva ones, or important to scaling.

I suppose that is fair. What if they're condensed though into say, one or two pages? Godzilla (games) and Godzilla (books)? That should reduce clutter by quite a lot and still allow for the rather abundant games' abilities, stats and other stuff so that all the work doesn't need to get deleted.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Just a difference in AP isn't enough for a profile, this is why we don't have JoJo anime profiles (they're actually tier 7 lol)

But the backstory is totally different

 

[Armorchompy]

I suppose that is fair. What if they're condensed though into say, one or two pages? Godzilla (games) and Godzilla (books)? That should reduce clutter by quite a lot and still allow for the rather abundant games' abilities, stats and other stuff so that all the work doesn't need to get deleted.

That'd be a composite profile, and those aren't allowed, I'm afraid.

 

[Armorchompy]

But the backstory is totally different

Backstory has very little weight in battleboarding.

 

[00potato]

Ehhh, then we would just have a really big profile.

I would say just keep the really notable or unique game profiles how they are, same with books and comics.

But the backstory is totally different

It isn’t so different so that this Goji is a very unique entity.
I mean he is mostly the same besides like two small abilities, and a slightly different super form.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Backstory has very little weight in battleboarding.

Soo which is needed to secure a profile on this wiki?

 

[Armorchompy]

Soo which is needed to secure a profile on this wiki?

You'd need him to be fairly unique in terms of P&A or fighting technique, I suppose.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Ehhh, then we would just have a really big profile.

I would say just keep the really notable or unique game profiles how they are, same with books and comics.


It isn’t so different so that this Goji is a very unique entity.
I mean he is mostly the same besides like two small abilities, and a slightly different super form.

I mean dude if we follow this the way you want even books/comics profiles are gonna be deleted.

 

[Dinoanime7]

Ehhh, then we would just have a really big profile.

I would say just keep the really notable or unique game profiles how they are, same with books and comics.


It isn’t so different so that this Goji is a very unique entity.
I mean he is mostly the same besides like two small abilities, and a slightly different super form.

Abilities don’t really mean anything.

 

[Armorchompy]

If the books and comics aren't too obscure they can be kept I'm sure.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

You'd need him to be fairly unique in terms of P&A or fighting technique, I suppose.

If have a different AP and powers is not enough then All Godzilla profiles must be deleted...

Many share the same powers, the only thing that changes is the story background and AP.

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

Alright then give us like a week to get everything out. It's a lot to lose just to follow the rules.

 

[Armorchompy]

If have a different AP and powers is not enough then All Godzilla profiles must be deleted...

Many share the same powers, the only thing that changes is the story background and AP.

I understand that, but first off, even as a very casual Godzilla enjoyer I know there's more differences than that, secondly those are much less obscure and therefore are fine.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Ehhh, then we would just have a really big profile.

I would say just keep the really notable or unique game profiles how they are, same with books and comics.


It isn’t so different so that this Goji is a very unique entity.
I mean he is mostly the same besides like two small abilities, and a slightly different super form.

Soo again which profiles need to be deleted?

 

[00potato]

This thread is to decide what.

I will have to go for a bit but when I finish I will come up here and start.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Haven't we already have had many different Godzilla discussions? I thought they're already following rules about keeping the continuities seperated. Or at least most of them.

 

[Dinoanime7]

Haven't we already have had many different Godzilla discussions? I thought they're already following rules about keeping the continuities seperated. Or at least most of them.

Yeah these continuities are separate. I don’t see the problem with it.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Haven't we already have had many different Godzilla discussions? I thought they're already following rules about keeping the continuities seperated. Or at least most of them.

None Godzilla profile shares same continuity.

The proposal here is to delete the profiles that are irrelevant.

According @00potato

 

[Ionliosite]

Haven't we already have had many different Godzilla discussions? I thought they're already following rules about keeping the continuities seperated. Or at least most of them.

That's not what's being discussed here. All profiles are for different continuities, this thread is for deleting crossovers and super obscure stuff that's barely different from the mainstream.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Okay then, I may look into more details later.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

We really dont need profiles for stuff like Simpsons Godzilla and always Sunset Godzilla, thos are versions that appear for quit literally seconds and did almost nothing

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

We really dont need profiles for stuff like Simpsons Godzilla and always Sunset Godzilla, thos are versions that appear for quit literally seconds and did almost nothing

Those were already deleted

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Those were already deleted

Ah okay good

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Ah okay good

Yeah, I asked for their deletion.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

That's not what's being discussed here. All profiles are for different continuities, this thread is for deleting crossovers and super obscure stuff that's barely different from the mainstream.

Yeah, lol

Althought I insist that Pachinko Godzilla is fine since he has feats and also a story to back up them, plus was made by Toho themselves at difference with many other Godzilla games.