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Godzilla (Legendary) vs Gypsy Danger.

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Godzilla wins this, the sheer size and weight advantage will alow it to survive barrages from Gypsy Danger, and it has a higher durability too, so Gypsy will have to chip Godzilla to death, while Godzilla with a single well aimed hit is going to heavily damage Gypsy
 
goji will stomp. he has survived hits from MUTOs who were able to resist his atmic breath (which is over 1 million C). he survived a nuke. he is also bigger. i vote for goji
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Just gonna point out that Gypsy is High 7-A and Legendary Godzilla is Low 6-B
That was using the meteor feat, which can be debunked for numerous reasons. First, it was a scientist's theory. Second, the meteor landed nowhere near Godzilla, there was no explosion, dust, or debris in the air. Third, we don't know if that was the same Godzilla, they were a species in those times. And finally, the feat contradicts itself. Shinomura is shown to have survived, yet is completely vaporized by Castle Bravo? I don't buy it.
 
Gypsy's quicker on her feet, and her blade could do some good damage to Godzilla. However, Godzilla's strength and durability should allow him to overpower her, and that tail of his especially would deal nasty damage to Gypsy.
 
1. The theory of a scientist who spent years studying Godzilla is far more believable than just saying 'nah never happened'.

2. Godzilla was shown to be at nearly point blank range of the meteor

3. The comic shows that the Godzilla that survived the meteor as well as Shunomura went dormant to feed off of the planet's radiation and became active in modern times, the Godzilla in the movie being the same one that tanked the meteor. Hell they even say in the comic that nothing in their power could defeat Godzilla and then they hit him with Castle Bravo and he tanks it, seeing as Shonomura was able to visibly damage Godzilla, Shinomura being damaged by the bomb at all is PIS at best.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
1. The theory of a scientist who spent years studying Godzilla is far more believable than just saying 'nah never happened'.
2. Godzilla was shown to be at nearly point blank range of the meteor

3. The comic shows that the Godzilla that survived the meteor as well as Shunomura went dormant to feed off of the planet's radiation and became active in modern times, the Godzilla in the movie being the same one that tanked the meteor. Hell they even say in the comic that nothing in their power could defeat Godzilla and then they hit him with Castle Bravo and he tanks it, seeing as Shonomura was able to visibly damage Godzilla, Shinomura being damaged by the bomb at all is PIS at best.
1. That is like saying the theory of a scientist studying Bigfoot for years is credible. All he had to go on is very rare sightings, it isn't like he could put Godzilla in a lab to study his origins.

2. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-4206710

This image shows the meteor landed nowhere near them.

3. The fact Shinomura was killed by the bomb plus the scan above both support the idea that they were not hit by the meteor.

ConsumingFire said:
@WeeklyBattles Even barring the meteor feat and going strictly by the 2014 movie, Godzilla is still more impressive than Gypsy thanks to tanking Castle Bravo. He's also 45x heavier, so I doubt Gypsy could even budge him.
By scaling from Slattern, who tanked a gigaton, Gipsy is more impressive. Gipsy also can't weigh only 2000 tons, because it sinks. The movie is canon, and things like sinking, not being tossed wildly by a building falling on them, lifting ships etc. tell us the Jaegers and Kaiju weigh more. By displacement, Gipsy Danger is 12k tons. This is a lowball, because the Jaegers sink.
 
"tanked a gigaton"

Where are you getting this number from? The bomb was a 2400 lb, 1.2 megaton bomb, according to the film's novelization.

Also, coming out of the blast severely wounded does not mean he tanked it, it means he survived it.

The feat itself is also inconsistent. If Gipsy could burn Slattern with the exhaust from its nuclear reactor, then the heat of the bubble created by the nuke going off should have vaporized both it and Gipsy.

"Gipsy also can't weigh only 2000 tons, because it sinks."

Literally every official source says otherwise. In Pacific Rim: Man, Machines & Monsters (the same artbook that says GD is 1980 tons) Knifehead is listed at 2700 tons, while in the film Knifehead is said to be 8700 tons. That's a difference of about 3.2x. Applying that same difference to the weight applied to Gipsy Danger gives him an approximate film weight of 6380 tons. Substantially heavier, but still about 14x lighter than Godzilla.
 
ConsumingFire said:
"tanked a gigaton"

Where are you getting this number from? The bomb was a 2400 lb, 1.2 megaton bomb, according to the film's novelization.

Also, coming out of the blast severely wounded does not mean he tanked it, it means he survived it.

The feat itself is also inconsistent. If Gipsy could burn Slattern with the exhaust from its nuclear reactor, then the heat of the bubble created by the nuke going off should have vaporized both it and Gipsy.

"Gipsy also can't weigh only 2000 tons, because it sinks."

Literally every official source says otherwise. In Pacific Rim: Man, Machines & Monsters (the same artbook that says GD is 1980 tons) Knifehead is listed at 2700 tons, while in the film Knifehead is said to be 8700 tons. That's a difference of about 3.2x. Applying that same difference to the weight applied to Gipsy Danger gives him an approximate film weight of 6380 tons. Substantially heavier, but still about 14x lighter than Godzilla.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Kaltias/Pacific_Rim_-_Striker_Eureka%27s_self_Destruction This calc puts the detonation at 1092 megatons. Slattern was not severely injured, he had minor cosmetic damage. Gipsy's exhaust must simply be that powerful. Godzilla's beam can get pretty powerful depending on the incarnation, I see no reason Gipsy can't have a powerful beam. Every official source may say Kaiju and Jaegers are the density of styrofoam, but they are secondary canon. The movie, primary canon, contradicts this with Jaegers and Kaiju sinking, tanking buildings without flying around, picking up ships, etc. Weight does not matter, because it doesn't impact strength and durability.
 
Gypsy's beam is a full 4 tiers lower than godzillas. 'Godzilla had a powerful beam so Gypsy's should be as powerful' is not a valid argument
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Gypsy's beam is a full 4 tiers lower than godzillas. 'Godzilla had a powerful beam so Gypsy's should be as powerful' is not a valid argument
I didn't say as powerful as any Godzilla's beam, I was saying that the idea that the beam must be weaker than a nuke isn't necessarily true. I used Godzilla's as an example. As for Legendary Godzilla, the power rating given is entirely on a questionable meteor feat, which is contradicted twice in the comic, and in the film as well. If Godzilla can tank meteors, he should be able to tank buildings just fine. But in the film, a building knocks him out. The meteor feat is at best, an outlier.
 
The meteor feat isn't contradicted at any point in the comic, and if anything the building feat is the outlier seeing as Godzilla tanked castle bravo as well as multiple other nuclear tests and was just fine
 
"Weight does not matter, because it doesn't impact strength and durability."

Yes it freaking does. More weight means more stress is constantly being applied to the body, so more strength and a more durable bone/muscle structure are needed in order to bear it.

"But in the film, a building knocks him out. The meteor feat is at best, an outlier."

The building only KO'd Godzilla because at that point in the film he was immensely fatigued. He had just gotten over crossing thousands of miles non-stop in pursuit of the male MUTO and had just finished fighting both of them for a good while, during which he used his atomic breath twice, which itself likely depleted his energy reserves even further.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
The meteor feat isn't contradicted at any point in the comic, and if anything the building feat is the outlier seeing as Godzilla tanked castle bravo as well as multiple other nuclear tests and was just fine
It is contradicted twice. First by the very next page showing no meteor impact in sight, and later by Shinomura's death. Also, we don't know what happened to Godzilla after Castle Bravo. He just disappeared until 2014. There is also a difference between kinetic and heat resistance. Godzilla was also exhausted from the fight before.

ConsumingFire said:
"Weight does not matter, because it doesn't impact strength and durability."
Yes it freaking does. More weight means more stress is constantly being applied to the body, so more strength and a more durable bone/muscle structure are needed in order to bear it.

"But in the film, a building knocks him out. The meteor feat is at best, an outlier."

The building only KO'd Godzilla because at that point in the film he was immensely fatigued. He had just gotten over crossing thousands of miles non-stop in pursuit of the male MUTO and had just finished fighting both of them for a good while, during which he used his atomic breath twice, which itself likely depleted his energy reserves even further.
You would be correct, if these were real beings. But tey aren't, and regardless of weight, they still have the same feats. Godzilla was tired, yes, but it is still a far lower showing than the meteor. If Godzilla can ignore a meteor, he should ignore buildings, tired or not. It is the difference between surviving a brick dropped on you vs a house.
 
Godzilla vs gipsy danger said:
It is contradicted twice. First by the very next page showing no meteor impact in sight, and later by Shinomura's death. Also, we don't know what happened to Godzilla after Castle Bravo. He just disappeared until 2014. There is also a difference between kinetic and heat resistance. Godzilla was also exhausted from the fight before.
The very next page literally shows the meteor impact. Shinomura can physically harm Godzilla who can tank not only Castle Bravo but multiple nuke tests and be just fine, Castle Bravo killing it is PIS and Godzilla being injured by a building is PIS especially considering for the latter Godzilla and the MUTOs destroy multiple buildings with physical attacks as collateral damage.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Godzilla vs gipsy danger said:
It is contradicted twice. First by the very next page showing no meteor impact in sight, and later by Shinomura's death. Also, we don't know what happened to Godzilla after Castle Bravo. He just disappeared until 2014. There is also a difference between kinetic and heat resistance. Godzilla was also exhausted from the fight before.
The very next page literally shows the meteor impact. Shinomura can physically harm Godzilla who can tank not only Castle Bravo but multiple nuke tests and be just fine, Castle Bravo killing it is PIS and Godzilla being injured by a building is PIS especially considering for the latter Godzilla and the MUTOs destroy multiple buildings with physical attacks as collateral damage.
And shows it landed nowhere near Godzilla. No explosion, or even a huge dust cloud, is in the sky. The sky is completely clear! There was no huge crater in the panel either. Shinomura harming Godzilla says nothing about durability, it could simply be a glass cannon. Godzilla being hurt by a building is not PIS, the damage built up over time. Also, having low weights means that their casual motions are enough to resist their buoyancy. For Slattern, that would mean constantly exerting at least 90,000 tons of force, since he is of similar, if not bigger, size than Godzilla. The Jaegers are able to go toe to toe with Slattern, meaning they would also exert similar force.
 
First page: Panels 1 and 2 are of Godzilla fighting Shinomura, Panel 3 is the meteor coming directly at them

Second page: Panel 1 is the impact itself, with the sky being clear happening to the meteor itself parting clouds as you see around the impact area in the first panel. Panel 2 is Godzilla and Shinomura right after they tank the meteor, you even see Godzilla and Shinomura in the shor, with Godzilla being at the rim of the crater whils Shinomura falls into it. Panel 3 is a wide shot of the crater which caused a massive crack down to an underground lake of lava, the crater that shinomura fell into. Panel 4 is Godzilla after surviving the meteor going dormant near thermal vents.

Page 3: Godzilla being Dormant while the lava crater that was formed by the meteor turns into a volcano.

Page 4: Shinomura being awakened by the bombing in Japan still dormant in the underground lava lake that it fell into after the meteor hit.

So yes, it does in fact show them being hit by the meteor and tanking the impact, and there is in fact a crater.

Shinomura harming Godzilla does in fact say something about its durability given Newton's third law. If you harm someone with a certain durability with your physical attacks and dont break your bones in doing so, you have the durability to survive exerting that much energy.

It is in fact PIS, we dont accept damage build up over time as legitimate, otherwise Jojo would be 6-B. Anyone who has multiple tier 7 and 6 feats being harmed by something like a building falling on them is hard PIS, by this logic you would downgrade guys like Thor to tier 9 for being knocked out by a bullet, Thanos to tier 10 for being arrested by police, and darkseid to tier 10 for being mugged by a bunch of kids, and Hulk to tier 10 for being overpowered by gorillas and an anaconda
 
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