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Hey all, I was checking out the Godzilla in Hell page and I think that there's some stuff that really needs to be added and/or changed. There is an older thread here where some of the stuff I noticed was previously discussed, but I don't know that all of the discussed changes were verified and made, so forgive me if I relist anything that has already been addressed.. First, the "Godzilla survived the beam clash" bit is still there. While it is possible this is what happened, given we see the planet blown up and then SG and G are in the afterlife, meaning that they technically could have been transported there (SG being encased in ice/crystal might even support this, as he could have been "found" that way)...but I think it's much safer to assume that they died. And to Apex, I'm pretty sure the "can't kill Godzilla" thing is more about ending his story; Godzilla can die, as long as he comes back from it, like in Rage Across Time fighting Zeus. As for Ghidorah, it states that he's the reason Godzilla is in Hell, not necessarily the cause. The planet was clearly destroyed by G and SG, and unless there's some confirmation that that specifically didn't kill them, I think it's safe to assume. Ghidorah is referred to as a "devil" and it would make sense that Godzilla was brought there to deal with him, given that God tried to recruit Godzilla to fight on its behalf.
Second, either the Gate Guardian (the god part...in a minute) or the entire location of Hell should have temporal manipulation and/or acausality of some stripe, given that Godzilla is able to return to the living universe on what is heavily implied to be Earth before it was destroyed (or maybe even a second creation/reality reset that created a new earth).
The being guarding the Gate at the end really shouldn't be referred to as (a) God, at least not with the actual God appearing earlier in the comic. The "mountain" God is very clearly a representation of (perhaps even "kaiju-fied") or analog to the Abrahamic God, as shown by its attending angels, ability to grant power to fight against evil (see: the angels empowering Godzilla with holy energy that instantly reflects Spacegodzilla's beam and kills him), and dwelling in a light-filled realm separate from Hell. Not to mention Word of God statements by the creators. Conflating the two or thinking that they're the same being is understandable. Everything from their appearances being inversions of a theme, both are mountain creatures with God being a mountain and the Guardian living on one, having multiple eyes and vaguely undefined shapes, to their roles in the story functioning as transition points are consciously made to be reflections of each other. They could even be argued to be two different aspects of the same being...but even this interpretation needs the issue 1 God to have its own section of the profile, which it needs even more if it's considered its own entity.
As for scaling, that Godzilla is able to damage this God at all let alone sending it fleeing, if not outright killing it (humorously causing the remaining angels and demons to start worshipping Godzilla as a new power at least comparable to those they already serve) show Godzilla to be incredibly powerful in this incarnation. The author/artist corroborates this, it's clear that this is meant to be a universe-creating God. Going by that should put God-Mountain at Tier 2 (at minimum) and Godzilla should scale to it. That said, there aren't too many on-page feats that support this, just that God lords over angels, can empower Godzilla to essentially be invincible/defeat SG, who stalemated him in a mutual kill earlier, and trying (and failing) to control Godzilla to fight for heavenly ideals like peace and light against Hell.
Let me know what you all think. I am looking for the source/original of the first artist God-Mountain explanation, but it seems that the original source no longer exists, leaving just that hard-to-read thumbnail image I linked to.
Second, either the Gate Guardian (the god part...in a minute) or the entire location of Hell should have temporal manipulation and/or acausality of some stripe, given that Godzilla is able to return to the living universe on what is heavily implied to be Earth before it was destroyed (or maybe even a second creation/reality reset that created a new earth).
The being guarding the Gate at the end really shouldn't be referred to as (a) God, at least not with the actual God appearing earlier in the comic. The "mountain" God is very clearly a representation of (perhaps even "kaiju-fied") or analog to the Abrahamic God, as shown by its attending angels, ability to grant power to fight against evil (see: the angels empowering Godzilla with holy energy that instantly reflects Spacegodzilla's beam and kills him), and dwelling in a light-filled realm separate from Hell. Not to mention Word of God statements by the creators. Conflating the two or thinking that they're the same being is understandable. Everything from their appearances being inversions of a theme, both are mountain creatures with God being a mountain and the Guardian living on one, having multiple eyes and vaguely undefined shapes, to their roles in the story functioning as transition points are consciously made to be reflections of each other. They could even be argued to be two different aspects of the same being...but even this interpretation needs the issue 1 God to have its own section of the profile, which it needs even more if it's considered its own entity.
As for scaling, that Godzilla is able to damage this God at all let alone sending it fleeing, if not outright killing it (humorously causing the remaining angels and demons to start worshipping Godzilla as a new power at least comparable to those they already serve) show Godzilla to be incredibly powerful in this incarnation. The author/artist corroborates this, it's clear that this is meant to be a universe-creating God. Going by that should put God-Mountain at Tier 2 (at minimum) and Godzilla should scale to it. That said, there aren't too many on-page feats that support this, just that God lords over angels, can empower Godzilla to essentially be invincible/defeat SG, who stalemated him in a mutual kill earlier, and trying (and failing) to control Godzilla to fight for heavenly ideals like peace and light against Hell.
Let me know what you all think. I am looking for the source/original of the first artist God-Mountain explanation, but it seems that the original source no longer exists, leaving just that hard-to-read thumbnail image I linked to.
