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She beats Poseidon at least. Hades and Ares are a toss up but she might edge out. Zeus whoops her.
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God of War: Freya Profile Overhaul
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He resists madness manipulation so idk
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Ik but not on Profile unless i missed
Which is why i specified
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Asides from Kratos and Odin, I don't think there is anyone in the Norse Pantheon who beats her now.
Lemme know when that comes out, sounds interesting
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How exactly she beats garm?
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Doesn't she have soul and mind manipulation?
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Yes but can she just inject a random soul into garm?
I don't remember her even having other people souks with her in a fight
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Light of Alfheim Shenanigans, though it won't work if she doesn't have a soul on standby.
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I agree fra
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So she couldn't beat Garm?
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I personally don't think so
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I completely agree with OP
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Doesn't Freya gain resistance to type 2 conceptual manipulation? Because she had fought the creature guarding the branches of Yggdrasil and was able to resist creature's abilities, and that creature, like Garm, could tear the realities with his paws.
Even if we consider that the creature has bifrost (partial alfheim) light on its paws( like odin) , and that this light existed before reality(exist). This can go up to type 1. But the choice is up to you.
Even if we consider that the creature has bifrost (partial alfheim) light on its paws( like odin) , and that this light existed before reality(exist). This can go up to type 1. But the choice is up to you.
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Yeah no. That's not CM Type 2. CM Type 2 is exclusive to Garm since he's got the feats of eating up seasons and the word for when you feel so hungry you stop feeling hungry.
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Hmmm. What if this light is also called the light of alfheim? (freya called alfheim light bifrost light in some scenes) and alfheim light also gives type 1 to this bifrost light because it existed before reality and is independent of it?
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But the action they both do is to damage the realities with their claws and create portals. (Garm's profile says so) can damage reality with the claws.
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The creature of yggdrasil can damage concepts of reality, like Garm(It can open fissures and damage the fabric of reality like garm) , and has bifrost light on its paws. And freya describes it as the light of alfheim in some scenes. And this light exists before reality(exist) itself and is independent. Everything returns to that light.
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No. Damaging Reality is not CM.
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No, Garm never damages the concepts of reality, only the fabric of the realms. Concept Manip doesn't work like that.
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Bifrost and LoA are two different lights. Sure, LoA creates Bifrost, but they do not share the same properties or nature.
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But why was the Type 2 conceptual manip key entered this way? I need to look again
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I know. But light itself is a concept, and the creature has it. Freya is also able to resist these abilities( btw, alfheim light and bifrost are the same. Bifrost is just a weaker version of it)
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It... wasn't? Garm's Concept Manip Type 2 comes exclusively from eating seasons and words.
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Nope, Light isn't a concept. It just predates reality and is a Primordial Force and exists as part of Yggdrasil, that's all.
Also no, Bifrost is a completely different energy source compared to Light of Alfheim, it is only made by using LoA as an energy source. It's like this, LoA is the chemical energy in the battery, and when put into a music player that energy is converted to sound energy. That sound energy is Bifrost. Fundamentally different.
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Also, CM Type 3 comes from the Light of Alfheim being able to affect souls, which in GoW have four parts, Form (The metaphysical nature of a being), Mind, Direction and Luck, and damaging souls can shatter and fragment all their aspects, especially memories. Hell, anybody who can interact with, manipulate and harm souls in GoW would get this.
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The souls in the verse are concepts, and the light is "everything" in reality, and everything returns to it. Souls, death, life , fate and rebirth are a concept And the light is everything that encompasses them, and it all turns to light. The only thing that separates souls from light is that light exists before reality, also reality itself.
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But how can light be a type 3 concept? Light exists before reality, light is everything, and everything in reality rotates according to it and comes to life in it.
The souls of the deceased return to the light and come to life there. Odin disguised as Tyr says that souls are surrounded by a power greater than themselves in the light.
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Type 3.
No, only souls return to it. "Everything" goes back to Yggdrasil.
No, Yggdrasil encompasses all of them including the Light.
No, the Light only separates the Realms and takes in souls back to it. Light itself and every other part of reality tho? That all goes back to the Tree.
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It's... not a concept at all? It just has Type 3 Concept powers for being able to manipulate, absorb and destroy souls to fuel itself.
Cool.
Wrong again, it's Yggdrasil that encompasses everything and it is what everything else goes back to. Light of Alfheim only takes back in souls and keeps the Realms separate, it doesn't work on any other aspect of reality despite predating it, that's Yggdrasil's job.
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alfheim light is only the energy source of bifrost they are not the same
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Freya literally says that light is everything. And light existed before exist itself. That would give light at least type 2.
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But both are basically the same. Alfheim light is a stronger version of bifrost. But both are same.
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The fact that light is literally everything in reality and exists before it. It's at least Type 2.
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No. Yggdrasil is. She explicitly makes mention of this.
No. It wouldn't. Existing before reality itself isn't good enough, you'd need to govern and affect all of it. Nothing here screams Type 2 for the Light, let alone CM Manip for anything other than affecting souls (Which is Type 3).
They are not the same. They have radically different properties. An energy source making another energy source does not make it the same as its creator. Again, think of the battery-to-music-player analogy here.
It isn't, Yggdrasil is.
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