Giorno vs HA Dio (fair rematch)

[Standuser081]

I did this because seriously, what happened in the game was pure PIS

Giorno Giovanna vs Heaven Ascension DIO

Speed equalized

Battle takes place in a desert

Both know each other's abilities.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

"Reality Overwrite (Allows Heaven DIO to overwrite/warp people and things out of existence in any timeline as well as nullifying any attacks, like GER and Tusk Act 4, and rewriting the fundamentals of existence)"

"Acausality"

I mean, unless you want to make a CRT for one of his notable feats, HA Dio just nulls GER and slaps Giorno into the next dimension or something.

Also, that's not a vote, I think this is a stomp.

 

[Standuser081]

Thing is, TWoH need it's fists to touch the object it needs to overwrite.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Pretty sure that Dio has actual abilities from being able to counter Giorno. So no, the fight wasn't considered "PIS" here, therefore this is kinda pointless and a stomp.

 

[Standuser081]

If Giorno only hadn't used GER's fists to clash with TWoH's fists, his ability wouldn't have been negated in the first place.

 

[Standuser081]

Ok, to make this fight even more fair, I'm gonna have them know each other's abilites before the fight.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

If Dio didn't have any resistances to Giorno's ability beyond his Stand's Reality override, he wouldn't have been able to clash fists with GER in the first place.

 

[Standuser081]

So you're implying that Giorno did activate GER's "reset to 0" ability before attacking Dio? If that's the case, then why didn't Giorno suddenly get surprised and say "Oh no, Dio actually can resist GER." or something like that? Also, there's nothing in Dio's profile that says "Resistance to Causality Manipulation".

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Isn't this sorta like calling SSJ Goku vs Frieza PIS? In the sense that a character got a powerup and could beat a character that they previously would lose to. HA Dio is way stronger than the normal one so why is the fact that he could beat GER PIS?

 

[Standuser081]

I'm not saying that Dio defeating Giorno is PIS. I'm saying that what Giorno did in that fight (clashing with TWoH's fists) is PIS and it's what caused him to lose.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Doesn't Ger have to punch the target to activate the ability?

 

[Standuser081]

Nope. GER didn't need to punch Diavolo to negate his erased time.

 

[Torlikoff]

It did need to punch him to activate the death loop though.

 

[Eficiente]

>TWoH need it's fists to touch the object it needs to overwrite

Um, didn't we went over this already?

>Also, there's nothing in Dio's profile that says "Resistance to Causality Manipulation"

Acausality?

 

[Standuser081]

It did need to punch him to activate the death loop though.

Yeah, because he needed to kill him to activate the death loop.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

GER is automatic.

The fact that Dio's attack wasn't reverted to 0 the moment he started it shows a resistance. It's not something you can argue is a bad combat choice on Giorno's part, the ability would have activated regardless of his intentions. He even calls the stand before Dio's remotely in-range with his fists.

Acasuality comes from some other time shenanigans if I remember correctly, but "Resists Casuality Manipulation" is Acasuality in a nutshell.

" the ability to be unaffected by attacks reliant on cause and effect or changes to the past. "

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Yeah since GER negs things without touching then if Dio didn't get negged that means Ger couldn't neg Dio.

 

[Standuser081]

That... actually makes a lot of sense. I admit I must've misinterpreted both the fight and Acausality. Yeah, this is a stomp. Great, that's 3 stomp fights in my record.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

I'll close this, then.