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Like, High-Mid is getting absolutely trumped by the Cellular-Level Ki Blasts. I'm also fairly sure Goku's ludicrious AP advantage allows him to absolutely casually vaporize Ginosaji with every action should he wish, PLUS Ginosaji is incapable of tagging Goku due to Ultra Instinct.
Illusions ain't doing crap because the moment Ginosaji tries to attack Goku, he will instinctively dodge even if Goku wasn't expecting it.
ALSO, due to Gino literally only using a spoon to kill Goku (Which wouldn't be possible. Under normal circumstances, Goku would die from age sooner than he would from Gino). Hell, I'm actually pretty sure Gino is literally UNABLE to kill Goku as his durability would make it so he (Goku) literally heals faster than Gino could hurt him.
This battle is basically how long until Goku goes back to base, is thinking more like himself (Albeit tired), and just decides to eat a Sensu then mafuuba Gino. Gino literally CANNOT win.
Just like Thunder, Gino´s objective or "win conditon" is to get an inconclusive since the other cannot kil him, destined to be spooned until it passes out by old age.
But it seems that, for once, he will be utterly evaporated. And no one knows if he can regenerate from that point.
" Master Martial Artist, Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Ki Manipulation (Can be used defensively and offensively, to strengthen his skin or to fire ki blasts, which can home in on targets, and form defensive barriers that can keep out poisons and render absorption ineffective), Ki Sensing (Can locate others by reading their ki), Enhanced Senses (Even without ki training, Goku has exceptional senses that allow him to locate small, distant objects by tracking their smell, see clearly over long distances, and track the movements of others even in pitch black conditions by feeling vibrations in the air), Occasional limited Breaking the Fourth Wall, Pressure Point Strikes, Flight, Reactive Power Level (As a Saiyan, Goku grows stronger every time he fights and can become stronger in the midst of combat, vastly increasing in strength whenever he is mortally injured, and when he fought Jire in Ultra Instinct -Sign-, his attacks were getting stronger, faster, and sharper over time), Afterimage Creation, Power Mimicry (Can easily replicate other Ki-based techniques after seeing them once), Energy / KiAbsorption as a Super Saiyan God, Precognition (By predicting Hit's movements by analyzing his style, Goku was able to react to his attacks even when he stopped time), Light Manipulation (Can create flashes of light to blind opponents), Telepathy (Can telepathically communicate with others and read minds), Teleportation, Sealing with the Mafuba, Summoning (He can summon Zen'ō by pushing a button, but this is not applicable to combat), Statistics Amplification (Goku can greatly enhance his capabilities with Kaio-ken, by potentially up to twenty times), Transformation (Can transform into a Super Saiyan and even a Super Saiyan God, increasing his capabilities drastically), Cannot be sensed by beings lesser than a God as a Super Saiyan God, Possibly Portal Creation (Characters stronger than or equal to Super Buu and Gotenks should be able to perform the Vice Shout through sheer power), Can block intangible attacks, Resistance to Existence Erasure, Empathic Manipulation, and Time Stop (Repeatedly resisted Hit's attempts to freeze him in time until Hit powered up further as a Super Saiyan Blue with Kaio-ken x10 and retains this resistance in stronger forms), Regenerationn(Mid-Low) as a Super Saiyan God | All previous abilities, Heat Generation (Likely not combat applicable, however), Instinctive Reaction, Limited Power Nullification (Nullified Jire's ki blast), Danmaku"
Doesn't have Mafuuba huh?
Look, I don't know how you think Gino is going to win, but Goku can CASUALLY teleport back to earth, let Gino keep trying to spoon him (To no avail), get the pot from Roshi and the sealing tag, do the Mafuuba, and GG. Gino has NO win condition or even inconclusive condition. Goku WILL eventually try Mafuuba even if he can't kill Gino, and goodbye Gino.
Goku literally has a lifetime to find a way to get Gino out for good. 10-C with a FLUCKING SPOON. Goku EVEN WITH HIS GUARD DOWN AS A CHILD is still bulletproof.
Hell, Goku can spend the rest of his life trying to make the seals for Mafuuba and finding jars that works for Mafuuba, and do it with his last dying breath, and he'd still technically win this battle.
Fate just makes it so Goku can't kill himself with any other means. His only way of death is via spoon or age. Should Gino be vaporized and killed or sealed away, this ability is meaningless since... well, Gino is dead. Or sealed and unable to get out.
Actually in the long run, this ability helps Goku in any future endeavours against strong enemies. Keep Gino sealed away, and Goku is fated to never die to any other enemies! Strategy!
Clairvoyance is just finding Goku's position, doesn't help him harm Goku at all. Actually, my entire scenario above assumes that Gino is basically up Goku's ass 24/7. ... Kek.
Fate manip. is honestly pretty crap. It just means that Goku can't even accidentally kill himself, he can only die from Spoon or Age. Goku can try to blast his own head off and he'd either miss or completely tank it. It helps Goku actually, since he can do pretty much anything then and he wouldn't die. It gives Goku a crap ton more chances to remember that he can Mafuuba Gino away.
Clairovoyance is just finding where Goku is. Not useful in finding a way to actually kill Goku. So... ye.
I'm waiting for Asuka argument,if the clairvoyance and fate manipulation is not too potent then i'm siding with Goku,otherwise i'm not voting right now.