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This thread will be just a discussion about the physiology of the ghosts in Danny Phantom. I'm doing to explain to others what ghosts actually are and why they effectively scale to each other in terms of standard abilities, and why their special abilities aren't that unique to themselves. My last Danny Phantom thread didn't go over so well, I had an outburst against another member that was unprovoked. I promise that won't happen again, I should have taken a break and calmed down. Hopefully this discussion will go smoothly, I'll answer any questions anyone has.
Note: I will post links to the episodes in question for people who want to see them for themselves.
Ghost Types
I already explained ghost 4 types of ghosts shown throughout the series but I'll go over them again for any who didn't see the last thread, the order will be switched though.
Type 1 (Spirits): These are the majority of ghosts we see in the first season. They are as Maddie Fenton would put it when she was about to blast Danny Phantom who she thought was a full ghost, "Odd manifestatio of ectoplasmic energy and post human consciousness. So from that and the back stories and statements from the characters in the series like Desiree's backstory about how she did of a broken heart and old age, Sidney Poindexter who was shoved in his locker so many times his spirit was bound to it, Cujo who was a guard dog for a building in Amity Park. These ghost sometimes have a connection to the physical world from their past life, The Lunch Lady Ghost instantly knew when the school cafeteria's menu was changed and she was in a completely different dimension. The Fright Knight is also one of these beings but he isn't a spirit of a dead person, he's the literally spirit of Holloween.
Type 2 (Half Ghosts): These ghosts are human beings who have been hit with a massive amount of ectoplasmic energy the binded itself to their molecules, I'm sure everyone has heard the Danny Phantom intro. They are obviously still human but are capable of using standard ghosts powers in human form and are capable of transforming into a ghostly form. As stated by Poindexter, all the ghosts in the Ghost Zone were talking about Danny and stated "Your the halfa, half a boy, half a ghost, the halfa, you have all our powers on the mortal plane". This confirmed that Type 1 and two ghost possess the same abilities.
Type 3 (Non-Spirits): These ghosts are the are have the exact same physiology as other ghosts along with their abilities but they aren't spirits or at least are not stated to be and don't have any past lives. These ghost consist of Undergrowth, Noctur, Clockwork and Vortex, they have humanoid appearances and like the first type of ghost they usually have a special ability that makes them stand out.
Type 4 (Creations): These are ghosts which are created from the energy of other ghosts or ghostly objects. The carrier the standard ghost powers they received from the creator but only last as long as the creator continues to feed them energy. Case in point Pariah Dark's army of ghost skeletons, Undergrowth's plant creations, and Desiree's ghosts created from wishes. As soon as the creator is sealed the creations instantly disappear, turn to dust or in Undergrowth's case wither away and die. Another is Nocturn's Sleepwalkers who he forms from his energy, giving them Intangibility and and his ability to put people to sleep but not his level of Regenerationn, however he has shown to be capable of granting them Regenerationn if he wants.
Ghost Physiology
In the previous thread I created, I was explaining that all ghosts, no matter which type has the exact same physiology. All ghosts are made up of nothing but ectoplasmic energy. Ghosts do not truly possess an actual physical form, they are ectoplasm that is manifested from their ectoplasm energy and their consciousness shapes it. They can turn themselves into energy as shown in the episode "Parental Bonding" where Princess Dorathea grabs Danny and he turns into a blue wisp of energy and escapes her grasp, They can turn into gas as shown in the episode "Reign Storm" where the Fright Knight, Ember McLai, Box Ghost, Klemper, Skulker, Poindexter and more all broke themselves down into gas in order to squeeze into the Specter Speed and reformed themselves, Danny and Technus both turned themselves into Data in order to enter a computer game. Ghosts can grow extra limbs, change their physiology form jelly and snot back to ectoplasm, take their own limbs off and duplicate themselves by splitting their ectoplasm apart.
Unique Abilities: As I said above, several ghosts have unique abilities that make them stand out However these abilities aren't actually unique to the degree that no other ghosts have them, they are unique in the level of which they are displayed.
Clockwork can manipulate time however it's not completely unique. I've already made a thread about but I'll talk about it again. Ghosts are capable of creating their own pocket dimensions that have their own space and time. It is unknown how long it takes them to do this but it shows they have the ability to do so, the make their own realms that are mad from their own ectoplasmic energy. Prince Arago created his own realm that's frozen in time. When you get a glimpse of some of these realms they fallow a specific time and move from day to night. Which is different from the Ghost Zone's time because time is literally moving backwards and forwards. Clockwork has sold control of time but it isn't unique to him only. He can also see time and every possible outcome but that isn't unique to him either as the Observants can see through time as well just not every outcome.
Vortex can effortlessly manipulate the weather on a global scale. However he isn't the only ghost capable of doing this. The Lunch Lady Ghost created a small ecto storm in the episode "Mystery Meat", When hundreds the ghost left the Ghost Zone there presence alone started to create a storm in the sky. In the episode "The Ultimate Enemy" where Dan Phantom destroyed the world, a constant Storm was present across the sky and when he came to the past he caused the weather to change.
Danny's Ice Powers aren't unique. Frostbite and his people all have ice powers, Klemper has ice powers, Vortex had ice powers. His Ghost Sense isn't unique either because in the episode "Doctor Disorders" when several ghost insects possessed humans and made them sick, giving them ghost sense (Paulina's ghost sense continuesly went off), duplication (Kwan could make 8 duplicates of himself), energy manipulation (Dash could fire energy blasts from his eyes), body control (Jazz reduced herself to just a head and the rest of her body was pure energy)
Wulf can cut through space and rip ghosts out of people which Danny and Dan can do. The list goes on and on. Techniques puts his energy into technology which allows him to control it but this isn't unique because what he's doing is the same thing Kitty and Poindexter can do. Kitty put her energy into her clothes which contained a part of her, Poindexter released his energy throughout the school and took control of inanimate objects to attack people he wasn't even in the same room with he could do this even from a different dimension and he doesn't even have good control over his powers.
What I'm trying to get at is Danny Phantom ghosts "unique" abilities aren't super special to one ghost. Now am I saying give every ghost each other's abilities, hell no!. I'm saying that it's not impossible for them to have said abilities. I've only given ghost the most standard abilities that they have shown. The true problem came up when I tried to apply this logic to their Regenerationn which is the last part of this thread.
Regenerationn
Regenerationn is a power that ghosts possess and it's something many ghosts have done. What levels have they shown?
Low: Danny regenerated a cut on his side from a large blade.
Mid-Low: Danny regenerated 3 large stab wounds in his stomach.
High-Mid: Johnny's Shadow regenerated from being blown to tiny pieces.
Low-High: Danny regenerated after being turned into jelly and splattered into tiny puddles, Dani regenerated after her entire ectoplasmic structure fell apart leaving her a puddle of ectoplasm. Bullet regenerate after having his entire body crushed through a golf ball sized hole that formed inside of him.
Mid-High: Hotep RA regenerated after he turned to dust, Nocturn regenerated from smoke. Johnny's Shadow regenerated after being vaporized by the light.
Unknown levels: Every ghost sucked into the Fenton Thermos (which is nearly all of them) is broken down to their ectoplasmic energy state, losing their physical forms. This is why they can fit dozens of ghosts inside that tiny cylinder. Some ghosts can resistant being broken down completely like Dan Phantom who was punching and kicking the inside of the thermos and Ghost Freakshow who managed to break out of it. But when they are released instantly can restore their physical bodies but I don't know what level of Regenerationn this would be. I created a thread asking what regenerating from pure energy would be and I was told Low-Godly. A new Undergrowth regenrated after his core body was destroyed and all his plants and roots rotted away and died, Technus Regenerated himself from his energy.
As said above I'll be posting links to episodes to which what I've said takes place since I've realized my word is total shit. Just let me know which feat or statement you want to see and I'll grab it.
Note: I will post links to the episodes in question for people who want to see them for themselves.
Ghost Types
I already explained ghost 4 types of ghosts shown throughout the series but I'll go over them again for any who didn't see the last thread, the order will be switched though.
Type 1 (Spirits): These are the majority of ghosts we see in the first season. They are as Maddie Fenton would put it when she was about to blast Danny Phantom who she thought was a full ghost, "Odd manifestatio of ectoplasmic energy and post human consciousness. So from that and the back stories and statements from the characters in the series like Desiree's backstory about how she did of a broken heart and old age, Sidney Poindexter who was shoved in his locker so many times his spirit was bound to it, Cujo who was a guard dog for a building in Amity Park. These ghost sometimes have a connection to the physical world from their past life, The Lunch Lady Ghost instantly knew when the school cafeteria's menu was changed and she was in a completely different dimension. The Fright Knight is also one of these beings but he isn't a spirit of a dead person, he's the literally spirit of Holloween.
Type 2 (Half Ghosts): These ghosts are human beings who have been hit with a massive amount of ectoplasmic energy the binded itself to their molecules, I'm sure everyone has heard the Danny Phantom intro. They are obviously still human but are capable of using standard ghosts powers in human form and are capable of transforming into a ghostly form. As stated by Poindexter, all the ghosts in the Ghost Zone were talking about Danny and stated "Your the halfa, half a boy, half a ghost, the halfa, you have all our powers on the mortal plane". This confirmed that Type 1 and two ghost possess the same abilities.
Type 3 (Non-Spirits): These ghosts are the are have the exact same physiology as other ghosts along with their abilities but they aren't spirits or at least are not stated to be and don't have any past lives. These ghost consist of Undergrowth, Noctur, Clockwork and Vortex, they have humanoid appearances and like the first type of ghost they usually have a special ability that makes them stand out.
Type 4 (Creations): These are ghosts which are created from the energy of other ghosts or ghostly objects. The carrier the standard ghost powers they received from the creator but only last as long as the creator continues to feed them energy. Case in point Pariah Dark's army of ghost skeletons, Undergrowth's plant creations, and Desiree's ghosts created from wishes. As soon as the creator is sealed the creations instantly disappear, turn to dust or in Undergrowth's case wither away and die. Another is Nocturn's Sleepwalkers who he forms from his energy, giving them Intangibility and and his ability to put people to sleep but not his level of Regenerationn, however he has shown to be capable of granting them Regenerationn if he wants.
Ghost Physiology
In the previous thread I created, I was explaining that all ghosts, no matter which type has the exact same physiology. All ghosts are made up of nothing but ectoplasmic energy. Ghosts do not truly possess an actual physical form, they are ectoplasm that is manifested from their ectoplasm energy and their consciousness shapes it. They can turn themselves into energy as shown in the episode "Parental Bonding" where Princess Dorathea grabs Danny and he turns into a blue wisp of energy and escapes her grasp, They can turn into gas as shown in the episode "Reign Storm" where the Fright Knight, Ember McLai, Box Ghost, Klemper, Skulker, Poindexter and more all broke themselves down into gas in order to squeeze into the Specter Speed and reformed themselves, Danny and Technus both turned themselves into Data in order to enter a computer game. Ghosts can grow extra limbs, change their physiology form jelly and snot back to ectoplasm, take their own limbs off and duplicate themselves by splitting their ectoplasm apart.
Unique Abilities: As I said above, several ghosts have unique abilities that make them stand out However these abilities aren't actually unique to the degree that no other ghosts have them, they are unique in the level of which they are displayed.
Clockwork can manipulate time however it's not completely unique. I've already made a thread about but I'll talk about it again. Ghosts are capable of creating their own pocket dimensions that have their own space and time. It is unknown how long it takes them to do this but it shows they have the ability to do so, the make their own realms that are mad from their own ectoplasmic energy. Prince Arago created his own realm that's frozen in time. When you get a glimpse of some of these realms they fallow a specific time and move from day to night. Which is different from the Ghost Zone's time because time is literally moving backwards and forwards. Clockwork has sold control of time but it isn't unique to him only. He can also see time and every possible outcome but that isn't unique to him either as the Observants can see through time as well just not every outcome.
Vortex can effortlessly manipulate the weather on a global scale. However he isn't the only ghost capable of doing this. The Lunch Lady Ghost created a small ecto storm in the episode "Mystery Meat", When hundreds the ghost left the Ghost Zone there presence alone started to create a storm in the sky. In the episode "The Ultimate Enemy" where Dan Phantom destroyed the world, a constant Storm was present across the sky and when he came to the past he caused the weather to change.
Danny's Ice Powers aren't unique. Frostbite and his people all have ice powers, Klemper has ice powers, Vortex had ice powers. His Ghost Sense isn't unique either because in the episode "Doctor Disorders" when several ghost insects possessed humans and made them sick, giving them ghost sense (Paulina's ghost sense continuesly went off), duplication (Kwan could make 8 duplicates of himself), energy manipulation (Dash could fire energy blasts from his eyes), body control (Jazz reduced herself to just a head and the rest of her body was pure energy)
Wulf can cut through space and rip ghosts out of people which Danny and Dan can do. The list goes on and on. Techniques puts his energy into technology which allows him to control it but this isn't unique because what he's doing is the same thing Kitty and Poindexter can do. Kitty put her energy into her clothes which contained a part of her, Poindexter released his energy throughout the school and took control of inanimate objects to attack people he wasn't even in the same room with he could do this even from a different dimension and he doesn't even have good control over his powers.
What I'm trying to get at is Danny Phantom ghosts "unique" abilities aren't super special to one ghost. Now am I saying give every ghost each other's abilities, hell no!. I'm saying that it's not impossible for them to have said abilities. I've only given ghost the most standard abilities that they have shown. The true problem came up when I tried to apply this logic to their Regenerationn which is the last part of this thread.
Regenerationn
Regenerationn is a power that ghosts possess and it's something many ghosts have done. What levels have they shown?
Low: Danny regenerated a cut on his side from a large blade.
Mid-Low: Danny regenerated 3 large stab wounds in his stomach.
High-Mid: Johnny's Shadow regenerated from being blown to tiny pieces.
Low-High: Danny regenerated after being turned into jelly and splattered into tiny puddles, Dani regenerated after her entire ectoplasmic structure fell apart leaving her a puddle of ectoplasm. Bullet regenerate after having his entire body crushed through a golf ball sized hole that formed inside of him.
Mid-High: Hotep RA regenerated after he turned to dust, Nocturn regenerated from smoke. Johnny's Shadow regenerated after being vaporized by the light.
Unknown levels: Every ghost sucked into the Fenton Thermos (which is nearly all of them) is broken down to their ectoplasmic energy state, losing their physical forms. This is why they can fit dozens of ghosts inside that tiny cylinder. Some ghosts can resistant being broken down completely like Dan Phantom who was punching and kicking the inside of the thermos and Ghost Freakshow who managed to break out of it. But when they are released instantly can restore their physical bodies but I don't know what level of Regenerationn this would be. I created a thread asking what regenerating from pure energy would be and I was told Low-Godly. A new Undergrowth regenrated after his core body was destroyed and all his plants and roots rotted away and died, Technus Regenerated himself from his energy.
As said above I'll be posting links to episodes to which what I've said takes place since I've realized my word is total shit. Just let me know which feat or statement you want to see and I'll grab it.
