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It has been bugging me for quite a while that Jean's scaling is based upon her defeating 5 Ruin Guards as something that puts her over a Fatui Harbinger.
I was looking for cutscenes of Jean fighting and so on, but her feat comes from a quote of hers telling that she had to fight against 5 Ruin Guards to protect people from Mondstadt, but just that. We don't know how the fight went on and how much time it took her to defeat them.
In Tartaglia's case, we see him transforming into Foul Legacy to defeat four of them, yes, but that's in a more especific context:
First, he had one minute to defeat 4 Ruin Guards to protect Teucer's innocence (the boy thought Ruin Guards are heroes and that the laboratory was a toy factory) and he was pretty weakened from being injured both for fighting against the Traveler and having used Foul Legacy during that fight. We should assume that he was fighting alone, as we see him defeating a Ruin Guard while the Traveler was protecting Teucer during the countdown. He defeated them in base form, using only Hydro Vision powers in 50 seconds.
Then, Tartaglia asked Teucer to count 10 more seconds as 3 more Ruin Guards spawned. And it's then that he uses Foul Legacy while in a weakened state to wipe out the Guards so Teucer doesn't get desillusioned, defeating them in 8 seconds, the last 2 seconds used both for arranging 6 of the defeated Ruin Guards for Teucer and hiding himself from him. A feat that amazed both the Traveler and Paimon, the latter saying that "the way he knocked those Ruin Guards around was like they really were kids' toys".
So, we have Tartaglia, weakened from a fight-to-death + strain after a Power Up, beating 4 Ruin Guards in 50 seconds in base form, only using Hydro Vision. Then, in 8 seconds, weakened, he stomped 3 Ruin Guards while in Foul Legacy, which amazed a Traveler who had already fought against it AND not exactly defeated, but survived until the FL strain was too much for Tartaglia to bear.
We know about how Tartaglia battling the Ruin Guards went on, but bot about Jean's. And while Tartaglia was really weakened, we should assume Jean was in top condition during her fight.
So Jean's scaling above Tartaglia is not a good scaling, as the conditions were not the same and we only know that Jean fought against 5 Ruin Guards, not how did she fight them and defeated them.
Jean should scale around those who fought against Dvalin during Mondstadt's final chapter, being that fight Jean's greatest feat in all her appearances, and I should even add that poisoned Stormterror's 8-B Tier (and Andrius') isn't really appropiate, but that's for another post.
I was looking for cutscenes of Jean fighting and so on, but her feat comes from a quote of hers telling that she had to fight against 5 Ruin Guards to protect people from Mondstadt, but just that. We don't know how the fight went on and how much time it took her to defeat them.
In Tartaglia's case, we see him transforming into Foul Legacy to defeat four of them, yes, but that's in a more especific context:
First, he had one minute to defeat 4 Ruin Guards to protect Teucer's innocence (the boy thought Ruin Guards are heroes and that the laboratory was a toy factory) and he was pretty weakened from being injured both for fighting against the Traveler and having used Foul Legacy during that fight. We should assume that he was fighting alone, as we see him defeating a Ruin Guard while the Traveler was protecting Teucer during the countdown. He defeated them in base form, using only Hydro Vision powers in 50 seconds.
Then, Tartaglia asked Teucer to count 10 more seconds as 3 more Ruin Guards spawned. And it's then that he uses Foul Legacy while in a weakened state to wipe out the Guards so Teucer doesn't get desillusioned, defeating them in 8 seconds, the last 2 seconds used both for arranging 6 of the defeated Ruin Guards for Teucer and hiding himself from him. A feat that amazed both the Traveler and Paimon, the latter saying that "the way he knocked those Ruin Guards around was like they really were kids' toys".
So, we have Tartaglia, weakened from a fight-to-death + strain after a Power Up, beating 4 Ruin Guards in 50 seconds in base form, only using Hydro Vision. Then, in 8 seconds, weakened, he stomped 3 Ruin Guards while in Foul Legacy, which amazed a Traveler who had already fought against it AND not exactly defeated, but survived until the FL strain was too much for Tartaglia to bear.
We know about how Tartaglia battling the Ruin Guards went on, but bot about Jean's. And while Tartaglia was really weakened, we should assume Jean was in top condition during her fight.
So Jean's scaling above Tartaglia is not a good scaling, as the conditions were not the same and we only know that Jean fought against 5 Ruin Guards, not how did she fight them and defeated them.
Jean should scale around those who fought against Dvalin during Mondstadt's final chapter, being that fight Jean's greatest feat in all her appearances, and I should even add that poisoned Stormterror's 8-B Tier (and Andrius') isn't really appropiate, but that's for another post.
