Gaunter O'Dimm MASSIVE Profile Revisions.

[CrisisCrysis]

I made this sandbox alongwith my friend. Have a look:-

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:prophet's_Profit/Sandbox

Can we update the profile based on this?

 

[CrisisCrysis]

BUMP (1st).

 

[CrisisCrysis]

BUMP (2nd).

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

This link is really cool feat-wise.
I hope it's not fake

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

This sandbox, and the current profile, is problematic for me for several reasons.

- I don't understand the justification for 2-A, it is nowhere said that Gaunter is responsible for the Conjunction of the Spheres, and I don't see any statement that says that the multiverse of The Witcher is infinite.

- It's never said that Gaunter controls the abstraction or the concept of evil, he just makes a mess everywhere with his schemes. It's neither concept nor fate, just social influencing.

- Killing a character who does not show resistance to soul manipulation by removing his soul is not Resistance Negation. Having an Immo 2 does not protect you from a soul manipulation by default

- What is the Omnipotence Paradox? Why is this law manipulation? Where is this paradox mentioned in the link?

- I don't see any Omnipresence in the links. Gaunter can just teleport wherever he wants

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Bump

 

[CrisisCrysis]

This sandbox, and the current profile, is problematic for me for several reasons.

- I don't understand the justification for 2-A, it is nowhere said that Gaunter is responsible for the Conjunction of the Spheres, and I don't see any statement that says that the multiverse of The Witcher is infinite.

- It's never said that Gaunter controls the abstraction or the concept of evil, he just makes a mess everywhere with his schemes. It's neither concept nor fate, just social influencing.

- Killing a character who does not show resistance to soul manipulation by removing his soul is not Resistance Negation. Having an Immo 2 does not protect you from a soul manipulation by default

- What is the Omnipotence Paradox? Why is this law manipulation? Where is this paradox mentioned in the link?

- I don't see any Omnipresence in the links. Gaunter can just teleport wherever he wants

- He's stated to be behind the very plot of the Witcher world in his GWENT card description.

- The professor said that GO'D is Evil incarnate. His book titled "Gillian Alboco Lesser Key" (sorry for butchering the name) which can be found also talks about how Evil wears many faces and forms. One of those forms is composed of flesh and bones (GO'D), wandering through mortal cultures since before recorded history began spreading chaos and misery.

- Ok.

- Because here it talks about how a person wished GO'D for creating and lifting a stone so heavy that even he couldn't lift. But he lifts it anyway. This is the omnipotence paradox.

- The post hyperlinked above also mentions Gaunter O'Dimm as an "omnipresent entity".

This link is really cool feat-wise.
I hope it's not fake

It's not, the account actually exists.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

- He's stated to be behind the very plot of the Witcher world in his GWENT card description.

It's just say:

He’s always been there, quietly pulling at fate’s strings, his evil touch creeping its way into key events in the Continent’s history. From the Empire of Nilfgaard, to the Northern Realms, to the isles of Skellige and beyond, his influence knows no bounds. You may be tempted to try to defy the diabolical trickster, but in the end all will play by his rules and all will bend to his will. He is Master Mirror, and it is he who decides how the story plays out.

Stating that he is responsible for a multiversal event just with this description seems far-fetched.

- The professor said that GO'D is Evil incarnate. His book titled "Gillian Alboco Lesser Key" (sorry for butchering the name) which can be found also talks about how Evil wears many faces and forms. One of those forms is composed of flesh and bones (GO'D), wandering through mortal cultures since before recorded history began spreading chaos and misery.

True form should have concept manipulation yeah. But the physical avatar just has social influencing.

- Because here it talks about how a person wished GO'D for creating and lifting a stone so heavy that even he couldn't lift. But he lifts it anyway. This is the omnipotence paradox.

Ok

- The post hyperlinked above also mentions Gaunter O'Dimm as an "omnipresent entity".

It's not said that Gaunter is litteraly an omnipresent entity, but just that a tune echoed as if an omnipresent entity was whistling. It seems to be metaphorical.

It's not, the account actually exists.

Two keys should therefore be made on his profile then.

 

[CrisisCrysis]

Stating that he is responsible for a multiversal event just with this description seems far-fetched.

He was also called the root of all evil by Professor Shakeslock as well as the post I linked. That should mean that he's the source of the Conjunction of Spheres and magic in general, which are considered chaotic in the Witcher world as per Witcher 3's intro. It isn't that far fetched.

True form should have concept manipulation yeah. But the physical avatar just has social influencing.

It isn't just social influencing because it's stated in his GWENT description that no matter what one does, ultimately everybody would play by GO'D's rules and only he'd decide how the story plays out. This is more of a plot manipulation.

It's not said that Gaunter is litteraly an omnipresent entity, but just that a tune echoed as if an omnipresent entity was whistling. It seems to be metaphorical.

We could give him "possible" omnipresence.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

He was also called the root of all evil by Professor Shakeslock as well as the post I linked. That should mean that he's the source of the Conjunction of Spheres and magic in general, which are considered chaotic in the Witcher world as per Witcher 3's intro. It isn't that far fetched.

Why not then

It isn't just social influencing because it's stated in his GWENT description that no matter what one does, ultimately everybody would play by GO'D's rules and only he'd decide how the story plays out. This is more of a plot manipulation.

This is absolutely not concept manipulation or plot manipulation. This description sounds like Fate manipulation, but the Gwent video on Gaunter proves that it's just Social influencing.

 

[CrisisCrysis]

This is absolutely not concept manipulation or plot manipulation. This description sounds like Fate manipulation, but the Gwent video on Gaunter proves that it's just Social influencing.

Here it's stated that all those who've known GO'D's true name have either gone mad, died, or suffered fates far worse than even death.

Professor Shakeslock, who went blind upon researching about GO'D, was trapped in a runic circle inside his house by him. He was supposed to die if he left that circle.

After talking to Geralt, he accidentally leaves that circle and a book shelve collapses. Geralt prevents it from falling but he still dies anyway by stepping on a glass bottle and breaking his neck via falling.

These instances sound like fate manipulation to me. We should also give him HDE or something as it's stated in that post that his true form will collapse the entire multiverse composed of infinite universes and myriad higher planes.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Here it's stated that all those who've known GO'D's true name have either gone mad, died, or suffered fates far worse than even death.

Professor Shakeslock, who went blind upon researching about GO'D, was trapped in a runic circle inside his house by him. He was supposed to die if he left that circle.

After talking to Geralt, he accidentally leaves that circle and a book shelve collapses. Geralt prevents it from falling but he still dies anyway by stepping on a glass bottle and breaking his neck via falling.

These instances sound like fate manipulation to me. We should also give him HDE or something as it's stated in that post that his true form will collapse the entire multiverse composed of infinite universes and myriad higher planes.

It's all fate manipulation yes, but not the description on the Gwent site

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Looks like there are only two of us who actually care about this verse on the wiki right now.

 

[CrisisCrysis]

Looks like there are only two of us who actually care about this verse on the wiki right now.

Yeah, kinda sad.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Bump

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Bump

 

[CrisisCrysis]

Bump.

 

[CrisisCrysis]

BUMP.

 

[CrisisCrysis]

BuMp.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

So here is what I propose for Gaunter's page (I don't agree with some powers in the current profile so they don't appear in my list)

Avatar (First Key)​

• Time Manipulation (Can stop the time and possibly more)
• Stealth Mastery (Can erase his presence so no one can notice him)
• Precognition (Knew that Geralt would find Ciri and gives him advice to help her)
• BFR (Sent Geralt into another dimension, and said he sent Vlodomir's ghost back "from whence it came")
• Extrasensory Perception, Non-Physical Interaction, Mind Manipulation and Pain Manipulation (Forced a Vlodimir's ghost out of Geralt's body, and began mentally torturing it while eating an apple. Normal humans cannot see or hear Vlodimir's ghost)
• Information Analysis (Knows the true nature of things and knew that Geralt was possessed by a ghost)
• Nigh-Omniscience (Gaunter said he know a lot about everything, and this is partly supported by the fact that Gaunter knows the deep secrets and the lives of each people he meets.)
• Sense Manipulatioon and Madness Manipulation (People who study Gaunter O'Dimm end up blind or mad)
• Power Bestowal (Has granted immortality and wealth to Olgierd accroding the Journal Entry, can create items like a drink that never runs out, a horn that produces an infinite amount of food, or a saddle that gives powers to the horse that wears it.)
• Soul Manipulation (Absorbed Olgierd's soul)
• Dream Manipulation (Made Professor Shakeslock have dreams about daughter he never had and gave him a nightmare of her dying)
• Immortality (Type 1, 4, 8 and 9: O'Dimm's last speech before vanishing was telling that "You are insignificant. You think you've defeated me but you are wrong. I can't be killed, I will be back." in Elder Speech. His true form is a transcendent entity living in another plane of existence and who can create avatars)
• Creation (Create entire dimensions with a clap of his hands)
• Illusion Creation (Made Geralt see Shani in his own world falling off a cliff and tricked him into believing she was real)
• Weather Manipulation (Casually conjure the biggest storms)
• Social Influencing (Gaunter persuaded the Usurper to kill Emhyr's father and overthrow him. Because of this later Emhyr was banished, turned into a hedgehog, etc. So Emhyr and Ciri's whole story was started by O'Dimm. He's implied to be the bauble seller who lost UMA to Bloody Baron, as well as the ship captain who sent the group of Dwarves to the Isle of Mists by giving them a magical firefly which was supposed to take them to a "treasure". He also watched Alvin grow up as he played his favorite game "kill an elf", as depicted in a Gwent card. Caused Northern War III just to claim the soul of Amadeus Ritterhof, for the pact he made with O'Dimm stated that he'd only repay his debt when "the sun rises over Rivia over the dark of night")
• Fate Manipulation (It is implied that he manipulated Vlodimir's fate and had him killed in a ambush. Drew a circle around Professor Shakeslock that if he left, he would certainly die, which happened later when he accidentally left it. )
• Law Manipulation (Performed the Omnipotence Paradox)
• Abstract Existence (Type 2: Is stated to be the "Evil Incarnates" many times.)
• Teleportation (Appears and disappears out of nowhere several times)
• Magic (The mark that put it on Geralt's face is ancient and powerful magic)
• Empathic Manipulation (Removed Olgierd's ability to feel emotion by giving him a "heart of stone")
• Curse Manipulation and Transmutation (It's heavily implied that he turned Marlene de Trastamara into spotted wight)
• Breaking the 4th Wall (Breaking the Fourth Wall (Stared right through the player's soul, and spoke 3 real world languages which don't exist in The Witcher world)
• Underwater Breathing (Can speak in water)

Attack Potency: Unknown, possibly Multi Solar System level (Created a pocket dimension that had its own moon and stars)

Intelligence: Nigh-Omniscient

True Form​

All the abilities mentioned above at a higher level:

• Abstract Existence (Type 1: Is the abstract of Evil)
• Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1: Manipulates the essence of Evil)
• Avatar Creation (Create avatars to interact with the mortal planes)
• Large Size (Type 8: His real-self would collapse reality)
• Self-Sustenance

Attack Potency: At least Universal+ (His real-self would collapse reality), possibly or likely Low Multiversal (Being the cause of all Evil, he was probably responsible for the Conjunction of the Spheres)

 

[CrisisCrysis]

BUMP.

 

[CrisisCrysis]

So here is what I propose for Gaunter's page (I don't agree with some powers in the current profile so they don't appear in my list)

Avatar (First Key)​

• Time Manipulation (Can stop the time and possibly more)
• Stealth Mastery (Can erase his presence so no one can notice him)
• Precognition (Knew that Geralt would find Ciri and gives him advice to help her)
• BFR (Sent Geralt into another dimension, and said he sent Vlodomir's ghost back "from whence it came")
• Extrasensory Perception, Non-Physical Interaction, Mind Manipulation and Pain Manipulation (Forced a Vlodimir's ghost out of Geralt's body, and began mentally torturing it while eating an apple. Normal humans cannot see or hear Vlodimir's ghost)
• Information Analysis (Knows the true nature of things and knew that Geralt was possessed by a ghost)
• Nigh-Omniscience (Gaunter said he know a lot about everything, and this is partly supported by the fact that Gaunter knows the deep secrets and the lives of each people he meets.)
• Sense Manipulatioon and Madness Manipulation (People who study Gaunter O'Dimm end up blind or mad)
• Power Bestowal (Has granted immortality and wealth to Olgierd accroding the Journal Entry, can create items like a drink that never runs out, a horn that produces an infinite amount of food, or a saddle that gives powers to the horse that wears it.)
• Soul Manipulation (Absorbed Olgierd's soul)
• Dream Manipulation (Made Professor Shakeslock have dreams about daughter he never had and gave him a nightmare of her dying)
• Immortality (Type 1, 4, 8 and 9: O'Dimm's last speech before vanishing was telling that "You are insignificant. You think you've defeated me but you are wrong. I can't be killed, I will be back." in Elder Speech. His true form is a transcendent entity living in another plane of existence and who can create avatars)
• Creation (Create entire dimensions with a clap of his hands)
• Illusion Creation (Made Geralt see Shani in his own world falling off a cliff and tricked him into believing she was real)
• Weather Manipulation (Casually conjure the biggest storms)
• Social Influencing (Gaunter persuaded the Usurper to kill Emhyr's father and overthrow him. Because of this later Emhyr was banished, turned into a hedgehog, etc. So Emhyr and Ciri's whole story was started by O'Dimm. He's implied to be the bauble seller who lost UMA to Bloody Baron, as well as the ship captain who sent the group of Dwarves to the Isle of Mists by giving them a magical firefly which was supposed to take them to a "treasure". He also watched Alvin grow up as he played his favorite game "kill an elf", as depicted in a Gwent card. Caused Northern War III just to claim the soul of Amadeus Ritterhof, for the pact he made with O'Dimm stated that he'd only repay his debt when "the sun rises over Rivia over the dark of night")
• Fate Manipulation (It is implied that he manipulated Vlodimir's fate and had him killed in a ambush. Drew a circle around Professor Shakeslock that if he left, he would certainly die, which happened later when he accidentally left it. )
• Law Manipulation (Performed the Omnipotence Paradox)
• Abstract Existence (Type 2: Is stated to be the "Evil Incarnates" many times.)
• Teleportation (Appears and disappears out of nowhere several times)
• Magic (The mark that put it on Geralt's face is ancient and powerful magic)
• Empathic Manipulation (Removed Olgierd's ability to feel emotion by giving him a "heart of stone")
• Curse Manipulation and Transmutation (It's heavily implied that he turned Marlene de Trastamara into spotted wight)
• Breaking the 4th Wall (Breaking the Fourth Wall (Stared right through the player's soul, and spoke 3 real world languages which don't exist in The Witcher world)
• Underwater Breathing (Can speak in water)

Attack Potency: Unknown, possibly Multi Solar System level (Created a pocket dimension that had its own moon and stars)

Intelligence: Nigh-Omniscient

True Form​

All the abilities mentioned above at a higher level:

• Abstract Existence (Type 1: Is the abstract of Evil)
• Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1: Manipulates the essence of Evil)
• Avatar Creation (Create avatars to interact with the mortal planes)
• Large Size (Type 8: His real-self would collapse reality)
• Self-Sustenance

Attack Potency: At least Universal+ (His real-self would collapse reality), possibly or likely Low Multiversal (Being the cause of all Evil, he was probably responsible for the Conjunction of the Spheres)

True form should be "at least multiversal+, possibly far higher" because the Witcher multiverse is infinite, and possibly infinite-dimensional (as it has "myriad higher planes" according to that IG post).

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Avatar (First Key)​

• Time Manipulation (Can stop the time and possibly more)
• Stealth Mastery (Can erase his presence so no one can notice him)
• Precognition (Knew that Geralt would find Ciri and gives him advice to help her)
• BFR (Sent Geralt into another dimension, and said he sent Vlodomir's ghost back "from whence it came")
• Extrasensory Perception, Non-Physical Interaction, Mind Manipulation and Pain Manipulation (Forced a Vlodimir's ghost out of Geralt's body, and began mentally torturing it while eating an apple. Normal humans cannot see or hear Vlodimir's ghost)
• Information Analysis (Knows the true nature of things and knew that Geralt was possessed by a ghost)
• Nigh-Omniscience (Gaunter said he know a lot about everything, and this is partly supported by the fact that Gaunter knows the deep secrets and the lives of each people he meets.)
• Sense Manipulatioon and Madness Manipulation (People who study Gaunter O'Dimm end up blind or mad)
• Power Bestowal (Has granted immortality and wealth to Olgierd accroding the Journal Entry, can create items like a drink that never runs out, a horn that produces an infinite amount of food, or a saddle that gives powers to the horse that wears it.)
• Soul Manipulation (Absorbed Olgierd's soul)
• Dream Manipulation (Made Professor Shakeslock have dreams about daughter he never had and gave him a nightmare of her dying)
• Immortality (Type 1, 4, 8 and 9: O'Dimm's last speech before vanishing was telling that "You are insignificant. You think you've defeated me but you are wrong. I can't be killed, I will be back." in Elder Speech. His true form is a transcendent entity living in another plane of existence and who can create avatars)
• Creation (Create entire dimensions with a clap of his hands)
• Illusion Creation (Made Geralt see Shani in his own world falling off a cliff and tricked him into believing she was real)
• Weather Manipulation (Casually conjure the biggest storms)
• Social Influencing (Gaunter persuaded the Usurper to kill Emhyr's father and overthrow him. Because of this later Emhyr was banished, turned into a hedgehog, etc. So Emhyr and Ciri's whole story was started by O'Dimm. He's implied to be the bauble seller who lost UMA to Bloody Baron, as well as the ship captain who sent the group of Dwarves to the Isle of Mists by giving them a magical firefly which was supposed to take them to a "treasure". He also watched Alvin grow up as he played his favorite game "kill an elf", as depicted in a Gwent card. Caused Northern War III just to claim the soul of Amadeus Ritterhof, for the pact he made with O'Dimm stated that he'd only repay his debt when "the sun rises over Rivia over the dark of night")
• Fate Manipulation (It is implied that he manipulated Vlodimir's fate and had him killed in a ambush. Drew a circle around Professor Shakeslock that if he left, he would certainly die, which happened later when he accidentally left it. )
• Law Manipulation (Performed the Omnipotence Paradox)
• Abstract Existence (Type 2: Is stated to be the "Evil Incarnates" many times.)
• Teleportation (Appears and disappears out of nowhere several times)
• Magic (The mark that put it on Geralt's face is ancient and powerful magic)
• Empathic Manipulation (Removed Olgierd's ability to feel emotion by giving him a "heart of stone")
• Curse Manipulation and Transmutation (It's heavily implied that he turned Marlene de Trastamara into spotted wight)
• Breaking the 4th Wall (Breaking the Fourth Wall (Stared right through the player's soul, and spoke 3 real world languages which don't exist in The Witcher world)
• Underwater Breathing (Can speak in water)

I forgot Summoning

True form should be "at least multiversal+, possibly far higher" because the Witcher multiverse is infinite, and possibly infinite-dimensional (as it has "myriad higher planes" according to that IG post).

Where does it say that the multiverse is infinite?

 

[CrisisCrysis]

Where does it say that the multiverse is infinite?

Multiverse

Apart from the world where most of the action of The Witcher series take place, are several other realities that exist. An infinite number of universes, parallel realities, Spheres and Dimensions were once possible to traverse without much effort – this was however changed during the...

witcher.fandom.com

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Multiverse

Apart from the world where most of the action of The Witcher series take place, are several other realities that exist. An infinite number of universes, parallel realities, Spheres and Dimensions were once possible to traverse without much effort – this was however changed during the...

witcher.fandom.com

So reading Season of Storms is necessary to have the proof