Garou vs Goku

[Orange]

Yeah no, not when we talk about things like animeverse or others fictions, the age of a character doesnt really matter when it comes to who is more skilled

Yeah it really matters, experience isn't useless, you can be more skilled yes, but experience what enables you to analyse, act upon, create bee strategies , be more prepared due to facing multitudes of different enemies with their skill set

Bottom line is, experience isn't useless

 

[Bernkastelll]

Yeah it really matters, experience isn't useless, you can be more skilled yes, but experience what enables you to analyse, act upon, create bee strategies , be more prepared due to facing multitudes of different enemies with their skill set

The age doesnt matter if the character doesnt have feats to backup how skilled/experient it is

 

[Orange]

The age doesnt matter if the character doesnt have feats to backup how skilled/experient it is

You- if both have the same skilled, or even someone is less skilled, experience would come extra handy.

 

[SirAlex09]

Well this is one is hard. Garou's analytical prediction is on a very high level but Goku's analytical prediction is much better since he anticipated someone who was ahead of him in time. This is the highest level without considering it pre cog.

MUI also hard counters Garou's movement analysis since there is no pattern to analyse. Piccolo and Vegeta even called that movement unnatural when Goku ued it against Jiren.


Skill difference won't matter in this one because the inferior one would just copy the superior one and it would be a stalemate in the skill department..

I am leaning towards Goku

 

[Orange]

Goku can't bypass immortality and regen so skill becomes useless

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Skill difference won't matter in this one because the inferior one would just copy the superior one and it would be a stalemate in the skill department..

I don't think you can copy skill, you can copy techniques not skill.

 

[Rez]

Goku can't bypass immortality and regen so skill becomes useless

Pretty sure ki blasts are accepted to be capable of doing more than vaporizing due to kid buu so Goku can bypass his regen

 

[Rez]

Oh only physical stuff is allowed yeah Goku can't bypass regen than

 

[Orange]

Pretty sure ki blasts are accepted to be capable of doing more than vaporizing due to kid buu so Goku can bypass his regen

Ki blasts aren't allowed no?

 

[Rez]

Ki blasts aren't allowed no?

Yeah they are not I didn't read the op completely before commenting

 

[SirAlex09]

I don't think you can copy skill, you can copy techniques not skill.

Well if it's a perfect copy of the entire style, you kinda copy the skill as well. But that's debatable

 

[Orange]

Tbh, I want a match between seiya vs sailor moon vs xeno goku, equally stats but stat amps are allowed-

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Oh only physical stuff is allowed yeah Goku can't bypass regen than

Who said? Regen makes garou harder to kill, Goku just has to work harder for it.

 

[Orange]

Goku doesn't have any way to bypass immortality type 2 and regen with physical blows alone.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Garou's regen is low mid, a throat attack or brain or massive organ damage stuff like that would kill garou, or weaken him enough to make it easier for more brutal injuries.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Pretty sure ki blasts

They arent

 

[Bernkastelll]

Garou's regen is low mid, a throat attack or brain or massive organ damage stuff like that would kill garou, or weaken him enough to make it easier for more brutal injuries.

I allowed webcomic garou, which has good regen

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

I allowed webcomic garou, which has good regen

what's his regen.

 

[Bernkastelll]

what's his regen.

https://media.**********.net/attachments/855354494476746772/862042082571190322/8e14379b2874c2e80254ac85b9216caa9cb68e1e_hq_1.jpg

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

https://media.**********.net/attachments/855354494476746772/862042082571190322/8e14379b2874c2e80254ac85b9216caa9cb68e1e_hq_1.jpg

That's still low-mid... He can't regenerate from decapitation or brain damage.

 

[Bernkastelll]

... He can't regenerate from decapitation or brain damage.

Thats true, but killing him is pretty hard, as he usually adapts to what was previouslly killing him, as shown against that ripper, orochi, that dog, the monsters in the monster association, the heroes etc

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Thats true, but killing him is pretty hard, as he usually adapts to what was previouslly killing him, as shown against that ripper, orochi, that dog, the monsters in the monster association, the heroes etc

I already gave my reasons for why Goku is superior, all that's left is a good throat chop from Goku, and that either kills garou or gives Goku 15000 opportunities to kill garou. Also Garou immediately dies if he loses his head, he isn't going to adapt to that...

 

[Bernkastelll]

What is the reasons? I didnt read, i am having some bad times here in my house

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Goku has years of martial arts experience (44 years old), he can fight with and beat people with hundreds and even thousands of years of experience (roshi, hit), he can fight against people with hundreds of millions of years of experience (Beerus), and has mastered a technique that GoDs cannot obtain in 48 minutes and GoDs live for hundreds of millions of years. Goku has ultra instinct which is broken ability, analytical prediction (predicts teleportation and reads air currents), enhanced senses, acrobatics, afterimage creation, reactive power level, power mimcry, pressure point strikes, regeneration. I'm voting Goku.

here it is. I hope everything is okay at your place.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Oh I already could counter argue some of that points, but I cannot elaborate better currently, maybe in few hours I can do it, and ty

 

[Kin201]

Cutting someone's head seems out of character for Goku. Garou's martial arts was stated by Darkshine to overpower someone as if they are being corned by dozens of martial artists at once. It's like you're being attacked by mutiple people at once. And I'm not sure if Goku can overcome his regen like that considering how quickly he regenerates, plus with their stats being equalised here. It's not like Goku's hands act as a sharp blade or something like that. Also, Goku shouldn't start with UI because that will be the reason he loses. He should fight him in base or SSJ transformation instead.

 

[Orange]

He can use ui in base or with other forms, the downside comes from MUI

 

[Kin201]

Tbf, this match is restricting many of Goku's wincons while Garou still has some hax to compensate. If Garou doesn't have hax like Regen, Inhuman Pain Tolerance, Adapting, etc.. Goku just takes this handsdown.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Cutting someone's head seems out of character for Goku. Garou's martial arts was stated by Darkshine to overpower someone as if they are being corned by dozens of martial artists at once. It's like you're being attacked by mutiple people at once. And I'm not sure if Goku can overcome his regen like that considering how quickly he regenerates, plus with their stats being equalised here. It's not like Goku's hands act as a sharp blade or something like that. Also, Goku shouldn't start with UI because that will be the reason he loses. He should fight him in base or SSJ transformation instead.

Goku will easily realize that his only chance for winning is to decapitate or destroy garou's brain and he won't hesitate. I already gave reasons for why Goku can keep up with Garou, he has way way higher fighting experience, broken analytical prediction (predicts movements forward in time, teleportation and reads air currents), UI which is crazy for hand to hand, probably his biggest advantage also makes him kind of resistant to precognition and analysis, power mimcry, pressure points, after images, reactive power level. Also Goku can actually make slicing attacks like that, I know ki blasts aren't allowed, but at least ki techniques that don't involve huge explosions and shit, so he could do stuff like piccolo did when he cut babidi in half for example, or cell who could cut rocks and shit with ki without ki blasts and stuff. Goku can use UI in base, actually I've been assuming base goku this entire time, UI Goku is a massive upgrade on top of his base (no power boost I mean technique only).