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Garou vs Goku

Bernkastelll said:
Human Garou has some kind of UI that works like he can dodge attacks in the blind spots even with instincts alone, and Half Monster Garou doesnt have these weakspots, as his body isnt affected by what affected him before due his Reactive Evolution, but this is not due Martial Arts, its more like physiology

Garou can do it as well, as he was able to copy both Bang and Bomb style and merge it as one against Darkshine, and Garou can predict movements as well due line of sight, posture, center of gravity etc, and it was human garou, half monster garou has better senses than it
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Can dodge on instinct alone, but goku's is always on instinct [from fighting, to defence, to offense, he was incapable of being read by someone who can see your vital signs, blood flow and the change of your cells and sense your energy].
Goku was able to predict someone leaping into the future [time skip] based on .....because, hit stance doesn't exactly tell you what are you going to do since its stays the same, yet goku was capable of predicting and acting accordingly. Plus with UI he doesn't even need to think to do it at all. He also has no opening stance.
 
Bernkastelll said:
Oh, and Garou also has some short of Durability Negation with his Martial Arts, his attacks made Darkshine bleed internally despite Darkshine skin not being even scratched
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Ohh I see that would be fatal actually.
But goku can evade it, how does garo respond to pressure point strikes?
 
Kin201 said:
So basically, Goku starts with his Ultra Instinct right? If Garou has access to his Reactive Evolution, then he wins eventually. Garou has immortality type 2, Low Mid regeneration. He has shown better endurance feats than Goku if I recall correctly. I don't remember if Goku can fight while having his entire rib cage shattered. So with stats equalised, he isn't gonna be taken down by Goku. He just adapts and outlasts Goku until his UI runs out.
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Goku was able to fight with a hole on his torso, also was able to train for 150 days with no sleep or eating.
 
After watching Garou again it seems as if Garou has a fighting style in which he commits hard and relies on speed and skill to get out of his sticky situations. This wouldn't work if they are equal. And also wouldn't work against someone who has bounds of fighting experience, but his resistance to go down is a big factor. I'll keep my vote on Goku for now but won't if my vote would cause Goku to win. In that case I'l retract my vote and go over everything once again.
 
Orange said:
, how does garo respond to pressure point strikes?
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A human garou could dodge attacks that affected his blind spots, so, he can dodge it, and since he become half monster, he lose pressure points, because he already was ''killed'' before'', and as I said previously iirc, things that affect him before doesnt affect him anymore


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and here, he had a entire rip in his body made by Orochi, but he is still alive because he already was affected in that way before
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and Garou has pressure points as well, and his fighting style is due attacking the vital spots of the body, which can put goku in trouble, as goku already was defeated due having his vital spots attacked
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Orange said:
Goku was able to fight with a hole on his torso, also was able to train for 150 days with no sleep or eating.
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It doesn't matter if he can train for 150 days with no sleep or eating. The problem is he can't sustain fatal injuries and keep fighting. You're referring to his fight with Moro right? Moro pierced through his chest and he almost died. He needed Dende to recover him.
DivineAura44 said:
After watching Garou again it seems as if Garou has a fighting style in which he commits hard and relies on speed and skill to get out of his sticky situations. This wouldn't work if they are equal. And also wouldn't work against someone who has bounds of fighting experience, but his resistance to go down is a big factor. I'll keep my vote on Goku for now but won't if my vote would cause Goku to win. In that case I'l retract my vote and go over everything once again.
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Goku's UI will run out quickly as seen in his fight with Granolah. Goku is also stronger than Granolah's clone. What you need to overcome UI is to survive long enough for the accuracy of it drops and Goku will also lose UI due to the stamina issues. Goku stomped Moro because he was massively stronger than him. We don't know what happened if Moro's stats were equal to him. He could've been able to outlast him.
 
DivineAura44 said:
After watching Garou again it seems as if Garou has a fighting style in which he commits hard and relies on speed and skill to get out of his sticky situations. This wouldn't work if they are equal. And also wouldn't work against someone who has bounds of fighting experience
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It can, yeah, Garou is increasing his combat experience and skill due simply fighting (goku can do it as well), as we can see in Garou vs Darkshine, when Garou was defeated in the start of the fight but easily adapted to Darkshine and started to surpass him, merging skill combats, fighting styles etc
 
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Btw, Garou's precog is something like this.
 
Kin201 said:
It doesn't matter if he can train for 150 days with no sleep or eating. The problem is he can't sustain fatal injuries and keep fighting. You're referring to his fight with Moro right? Moro pierced through his chest and he almost died. He needed Dende to recover him.

Goku's UI will run out quickly as seen in his fight with Granolah. Goku is also stronger than Granolah's clone. What you need to overcome UI is to survive long enough for the accuracy of it drops and Goku will also lose UI due to the stamina issues. Goku stomped Moro because he was massively stronger than him. We don't know what happens if Moro's stats were equal to him. He could've been able to outlast him.
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1- nope not that, this. Goku was able to fight after having his legs getting shattered and a big hole in his torso.
2- goku has an accuracy problem, that's why he would end the fight more quickly , UI gives him the dodging advice plus he can use his analytical prediction, air current and after image to distract and dodge moody of garo's blows. He can copy or create a style to counter the style of garou, he can use pressure points to his advantage, kia or shockwaves to keep garou away, plus he can either use sign, mui or sign plus god, it won't give him a boost but it would make his movement less predictable since he can't be sensed
 
Garou was able to survive this as well
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Did he regenerate from it or kept fighting in that state?
Also goku has after image, it sounds dumb at first but the after image technique worked on: people who re faster than goku, people who have ki sensing. And worked on cell [the same being who has all of gokus abilities + Z fighterz + frieza, he was faster and stronger than goku yet it still worked on him, tho I am not too sure but it's a nice technique tbh]
 
I see, that would certainly make him very hard to deal with.
we can really talk about who outskills who, who has more experience all day. But immortality and regen cannot be beaten with stat equalized or no hax [or ki abilities]
Thus I change nt vote to garou due to his regeneration and immortality , goku has no way of bypassing those
 
Indeed, it's really a blast talking about skill. Both are super skilled and it's amazing tbh
While I do believe goku is more skilled, imo and tbh it really comes down to who you like more, both are more skilled than naruto that's for sure 💀👀
 
This part still makes me laugh/sad about it
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I want Monster Garou key be added to his profile, but Webcomic profiles aren't allowed ;c it will take several months to the manga reaches Garou vs Saitama
 
Orange said:
2- goku has an accuracy problem, that's why he would end the fight more quickly , UI gives him the dodging advice plus he can use his analytical prediction, air current and after image to distract and dodge moody of garo's blows. He can copy or create a style to counter the style of garou, he can use pressure points to his advantage, kia or shockwaves to keep garou away, plus he can either use sign, mui or sign plus god, it won't give him a boost but it would make his movement less predictable since he can't be sensed
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He could end the fight quickly because he was fighting opponents who were much weaker than him (Granolah's clone and 7-3 Moro). He didn't fight someone that is equal to him and said person also has immortality type 2, Regeneration, Inhuman pain tolerance, plus Reactive Evolution, precog, etc.. and could end them quickly.
Bernkastelll said:
He could adapt and develop himself into a new form, which is a merge of regeneration + reactive evolution and his current immortality type 2
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Well, his most skilled form is this form. So if he transforms more, he will lose his skills and techniques in exchange for raw power, which makes him weaker overall but he did that in his fight with Saitama because Saitama's strength and speed were overwhelming him. Goku isn't doing that here because of stats being equalised.
 
Bernkastelll said:
This part still makes me laugh/sad about it
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I really feel bad for him lmao
 
Why don't we make xeno goku vs garou with stat equalized but we let all their abilities. I am pretty sure no one will get stomped on😁
 
Kin201 said:
It doesn't matter if he can train for 150 days with no sleep or eating. The problem is he can't sustain fatal injuries and keep fighting. You're referring to his fight with Moro right? Moro pierced through his chest and he almost died. He needed Dende to recover him.

Goku's UI will run out quickly as seen in his fight with Granolah. Goku is also stronger than Granolah's clone. What you need to overcome UI is to survive long enough for the accuracy of it drops and Goku will also lose UI due to the stamina issues. Goku stomped Moro because he was massively stronger than him. We don't know what happened if Moro's stats were equal to him. He could've been able to outlast him.
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I never said he would be in UI? Nothings stopping him from doing things in base.
 
Goku has years of martial arts experience (44 years old), he can fight with and beat people with hundreds and even thousands of years of experience (roshi, hit), he can fight against people with hundreds of millions of years of experience (Beerus), and has mastered a technique that GoDs cannot obtain in 48 minutes and GoDs live for hundreds of millions of years. Goku has ultra instinct which is broken ability, analytical prediction (predicts teleportation and reads air currents), enhanced senses, acrobatics, afterimage creation, reactive power level, power mimcry, pressure point strikes, regeneration. I'm voting Goku.
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
Goku has years of martial arts experience (44 years old), he can fight with and beat people with hundreds and even thousands of years of experience (roshi, hit), he can fight against people with hundreds of millions of years of experience (Beerus), and has mastered a technique that GoDs cannot obtain in 48 minutes and GoDs live for hundreds of millions of years. Goku has ultra instinct which is broken ability, analytical prediction (predicts teleportation and reads air currents), enhanced senses, acrobatics, afterimage creation, reactive power level, power mimcry, pressure point strikes, regeneration. I'm voting Goku.
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Goku regeneration is not that good
 
Also, ppl shoulr stop with the thing like "years of martial arts", it is not that rrlrvant
 
Bernkastelll said:
Also, ppl shoulr stop with the thing like "years of martial arts", it is not that rrlrvant
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👀Sorry but no, experience is relevant. Do you honestly think someone with 5 years of experience is the same as someone with 100 years of experience? Sorry but no, it's not the most important thing but denying it it's just stupid
 
To be fair, Garou has fought and out skilled opponents that are much older than Goku, like Bomb
 
Orange said:
👀Sorry but no, experience is relevant. Do you honestly think someone with 5 years of experience is the same as someone with 100 years of experience? Sorry but no, it's not the most important thing but denying it it's just stupid
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Yeah no, not when we talk about things like animeverse or others fictions, the age of a character doesnt really matter when it comes to who is more skilled
 
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