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Garou vs Goku

Bernkastelll

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it wont be added in the profiles because stats are equal and additional rules that i will make

Rules: Only Martial Arts and Physical things related to it, goku has acess to both manga and anime skillset and Garou has acess to both manga and webcomic skillset
no flight
 
Garou will get his P&A upgraded and more fleshed out down the line btw.

Also I came up with this idea in the OPM thread and planned to do it after Garou got his P&A updated why u steal my idea smh
 
I vote goku due to being able to predict hit, someone who can skip time. He can also use the air current thing too, he can also sense energy to know of garou is going for a faint or a real attack [like when he knew trunks wasn't going to hit him]. Is ki sensing allowed btw?
 
Orange said:
, he can also sense energy to know of garou is going for a faint or a real attack [like when he knew trunks wasn't going to hit him]. Is ki sensing allowed btw?
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Hm this part is about extracensory perception which isnt really due martial arts worthy thing, no
 
Goku's experience is twice Garou's Age. His range is greater with his wide array of Ki Blasts, and I guess the techniques part is kinda range so I just edit that out.
 
Bernkastelll said:
Hm this part is about extracensory perception which isnt really due martial arts worthy thing, no
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The ki sensing part
[Tho ki is a martial arts technique but no one is ready for that realisation yet]
I vote for goky for being able to predict a 1000+ year old time skipper assassin, experience [he was fighting from when he was a kid, fought many interesting fighters such as the one who out scales him, people that can skip time, people that can absorb energy , people that can sense him. He even fought a better version of himself on two occasions. ] he can use Kia which is just a shockwaves, was able to create a martial art style on the fly to counter the drunken fist. Plus UI [I know it's an simp, but manga can use the ability UI without amps which would give him an advantage, tho I don't know if thats prohibited]
 
Orange said:
Plus UI [I know it's an simp, but manga can use the ability UI without amps which would give him an advantage, tho I don't know if thats prohibited]
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UI is allowed, yeah, and Garou has his own kind of UI as well
 
Also, experience doesn't play much, but it's still a vital part of someone's skill set, it can give them alot of abilities [such as being prepared to face wierd abilities, knowing the fundamentals, facing tons of fighters and even picking up some of their moves, plus experience can also make someone much better and skilled. So imo I wouldn't brush it off as something Irrelevant]
 
Bernkastelll said:
UI is allowed, yeah, and Garou has his own kind of UI as well
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Tho UI - air current- predicting a time skipper= deadly combo
I wonder how gauro can defend against it.
Plus gonolha was incapable of figuring out the pattern of UI even tho he can see the bloodflow and change of cells, thus it's becoming even a bigger problem.
also goku can just either replicate or find a counter style to Garo's fighting style [like when he did against roshi]
 
Orange said:
I wonder how gauro can use it.
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Garou Instinctive Reaction is due being able to dodge attacks that was going to hit his blind spot with his instincts alone (human garou) and as Half Monster Garou he could fight and dodge attacks for a good time even when he was Sleeping against Puri puri and Darkshine
 
Bernkastelll said:
Garou Instinctive Reaction is due being able to dodge attacks that was going to hit his blind spot with his instincts alone (human garou) and as Half Monster Garou he could fight and dodge attacks for a good time even when he was Sleeping against Puri puri and Darkshine
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Sounds good , but not enough.
Goku has better UI ish skills? Plus goku stance has no openings [anime logic] His UI state [white one] has a different bloodflow and cells compared to the other forms, making reading his movement even harder, while goku also can fend off against sneak attacks because of predicting, air current, experience [see it's usefull] no opening stance and UI
 
Goku goes MUI and vaporises Garou since it is at least 100000x multiplier his base.
 
Bernkastelll said:
It isnt really difficult, as he already have his own UI, but I wasnt talking about copying UI, I was talking about both copying their martial arts styles
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Oh I see, both can do it yes
[Tho goku's UI is clearly better, I mean look at the hair, the muscles- I mean feats, feats-]
 
Bernkastelll said:
i guess their feats are similar
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Feat fetish 💀
lmao- but granolah, someone who can see the blood movement and cells was incapable of finding any weak points, plus goku's stance has no openings.
He can also dodge most of garo's attacks, copy his style or create a new one to counter his. Plus he can predict garo's movements [by air thingie, experience, and hit thingie]
 
Orange said:
plus goku's stance has no openings.
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Human Garou has some kind of UI that works like he can dodge attacks in the blind spots even with instincts alone, and Half Monster Garou doesnt have these weakspots, as his body isnt affected by what affected him before due his Reactive Evolution, but this is not due Martial Arts, its more like physiology
Orange said:
He can also dodge most of garo's attacks, copy his style or create a new one to counter his. Plus he can predict garo's movements [by air thingie, experience, and hit thingie]
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Garou can do it as well, as he was able to copy both Bang and Bomb style and merge it as one against Darkshine, and Garou can predict movements as well due line of sight, posture, center of gravity etc, and it was human garou, half monster garou has better senses than it
 
Bernkastelll said:
This part is not relevant as Garou currently is skilled as Bang and Bomb, i dont think that age thing is relevant

??? I literally made a rule that only things like martial arts things are allowed, so, No Ki blast
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It's technically martial arts, you could have cleared that up. In that I guess weapons aren't allowed?
 
So basically, Goku starts with his Ultra Instinct right? If Garou has access to his Reactive Evolution, then he wins eventually. Garou has immortality type 2, Low Mid regeneration. He has shown better endurance feats than Goku if I recall correctly. I don't remember if Goku can fight while having his entire rib cage shattered. So with stats equalised, he isn't gonna be taken down by Goku. He just adapts and outlasts Goku until his UI runs out.
 
Oh, and Garou also has some short of Durability Negation with his Martial Arts, his attacks made Darkshine bleed internally despite Darkshine skin not being even scratched
 
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