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So, I just replayed Furi because it's a forking awesome game. Now that I look at it in retrospect, it also has a few issues with it's stats
The Chai
... How exactly is a storm being around his joint not Environmental Destruction
He doesn't exactly shoot the stranger with magic hax megabeams, so it's not like we can scale magical potency and such, we don't see him using any weather machine that creates storms, nor do we see said machine take less or comparable power to his energy weapons
In fact, the storm doesn't even disappear when he dies. It just kinda shows up for the boss fight, and there's no real correlation beyond scenery
So, first Low 7-B feat is a no go, but what about the other one?
The Strap
But when was it ever implied they blew the entire structure up? They describe how they tried to tear through it but it kept regenerating, but that doesn't imply that the entire thing was exploded then just came back together. This is especially contradicted in game, considering that the environment takes awhile to regenerate after it's hit, and when the strap does her sweeping beam across the place, the only thing that's destroyed are the pillars and walls of the arena, nowhere near blowing apart the entire prison (And logically sending it tumbling to the ground as a result, since nothing would keep it floating if everything in it exploded)
It would probably be better to calc them using their laser to vaporize the arena pillars, since they can do that with the big sweep near the end of the fight, which The Stranger can take hits from pretty fine
Speed
I know we brought up the laser calc on another thread, but the reasons for shooting it down were pretty weird
From my recollection, it's because the thing that fires the laser also fires other projectiles which aren't lasers, which isn't really a disqualifier. Energy weapons can have multiple settings, and the beam functions way differently then other projectiles
But what about the properties of the beam itself?
Well...
Abilities
In retrospect, a lot of this stuff is pretty wack
Immortality (Types 2 and 5)
He isn't immortal because the concept or idea of death in verse can't attack him and because he can keep going in spite of damage, he's stated outright to have Regenerationn. The Chain says as much, and him having no wounds from being impaled and everything else only seems to provide more backing to it being that.
Instinctive Reaction (was able to dodge The Burst's stealth attacks purely instinctively)
This doesn't seem like instinct, so much as just him keeping an awareness of his surroundings and reacting accordingly
Immutability (not a single scratch despite the fact that we know The Stranger has been around and fighting for a long time, and he has been severely tortured by The Chain)
This is just him regenerating, not being invulnerable to harm. Otherwise he wouldn't be, you know, actually harmed and impaled by weapons.
Power Nullification (The Line said himself The Stranger was responsible for him losing his ability to forsee the future)
The problem I have hear is that the line is talking pretty metaphorically here
Like, he says things like "Time is a picture in motion through eternity" and that The Stranger showing up made the picture stop, and that the line wants to make his clocks tick again. Obviously, The Stranger didn't literally cause time itself to completely halt, considering it can pass just fine until the Line stops it for himself. If I had to guess, he's more just referring to how everyone's lives were going as they usually do, then it stopped because The Stranger showed up and started wrecking things. But, generally, the way he speaks is really weird, and I don't think we should take it at face value to assume that he's able to nullify precognition by standing there.
Teleportation
The Stranger never actually teleports, at most he just dashes from one spot to the other in a blur.
Resistance to Gravity Manipulation (walks on water, resists falling from great heights without any sort of help)
... He isn't even actually walking on water here, his feet go below the surface a little bit. Then again, the Scale also later drags them under the water for an attack, but... eh it's weird, like a lot of this game honestly, which is why I like it
Just being able to fall well is more a dura or skill feat. You don't have to resist gravity to not get yeeted against the pavement, especially when you're Tier 7 (/8 depending on how high recalcs get)
Corruption (His very presence causes the area around him to decay)
I'm fine with this, but, for one, it should be specified to be Type 2, and for two, it should be non combat applicable. Even when he stands next to perfectly ordinary people, these effects don't really do anything. I don't see why someone like The Beat, who's just a kid with tech, should be able to resist it. Then again, maybe everyone just resists it except for grass and the ground, I dunno
In Conclusion
Furi is cool but it also has plenty of room to be wack that we've kinda used rather liberally by the looks of things
Also, I should probably calc the flight suit feat we currently rate as in the rel range
The Chai
... How exactly is a storm being around his joint not Environmental Destruction
He doesn't exactly shoot the stranger with magic hax megabeams, so it's not like we can scale magical potency and such, we don't see him using any weather machine that creates storms, nor do we see said machine take less or comparable power to his energy weapons
In fact, the storm doesn't even disappear when he dies. It just kinda shows up for the boss fight, and there's no real correlation beyond scenery
So, first Low 7-B feat is a no go, but what about the other one?
The Strap
But when was it ever implied they blew the entire structure up? They describe how they tried to tear through it but it kept regenerating, but that doesn't imply that the entire thing was exploded then just came back together. This is especially contradicted in game, considering that the environment takes awhile to regenerate after it's hit, and when the strap does her sweeping beam across the place, the only thing that's destroyed are the pillars and walls of the arena, nowhere near blowing apart the entire prison (And logically sending it tumbling to the ground as a result, since nothing would keep it floating if everything in it exploded)
It would probably be better to calc them using their laser to vaporize the arena pillars, since they can do that with the big sweep near the end of the fight, which The Stranger can take hits from pretty fine
Speed
I know we brought up the laser calc on another thread, but the reasons for shooting it down were pretty weird
From my recollection, it's because the thing that fires the laser also fires other projectiles which aren't lasers, which isn't really a disqualifier. Energy weapons can have multiple settings, and the beam functions way differently then other projectiles
But what about the properties of the beam itself?
Well...
- It goes in a straight line and doesn't bend on anything (I'm told it can be refracted upon metal but I don't remember that ever happening considering it's unblockable)
- It vaporizes metal, showing properties of heat, but it also can knock the stranger back (Game Mechanics? Plenty of other non physical things knock them back simply because that's how the game works)
- Goes significantly faster than any other projectile we see in the game and goes at the same speed in every shot
Abilities
In retrospect, a lot of this stuff is pretty wack
Immortality (Types 2 and 5)
He isn't immortal because the concept or idea of death in verse can't attack him and because he can keep going in spite of damage, he's stated outright to have Regenerationn. The Chain says as much, and him having no wounds from being impaled and everything else only seems to provide more backing to it being that.
Instinctive Reaction (was able to dodge The Burst's stealth attacks purely instinctively)
This doesn't seem like instinct, so much as just him keeping an awareness of his surroundings and reacting accordingly
Immutability (not a single scratch despite the fact that we know The Stranger has been around and fighting for a long time, and he has been severely tortured by The Chain)
This is just him regenerating, not being invulnerable to harm. Otherwise he wouldn't be, you know, actually harmed and impaled by weapons.
Power Nullification (The Line said himself The Stranger was responsible for him losing his ability to forsee the future)
The problem I have hear is that the line is talking pretty metaphorically here
Like, he says things like "Time is a picture in motion through eternity" and that The Stranger showing up made the picture stop, and that the line wants to make his clocks tick again. Obviously, The Stranger didn't literally cause time itself to completely halt, considering it can pass just fine until the Line stops it for himself. If I had to guess, he's more just referring to how everyone's lives were going as they usually do, then it stopped because The Stranger showed up and started wrecking things. But, generally, the way he speaks is really weird, and I don't think we should take it at face value to assume that he's able to nullify precognition by standing there.
Teleportation
The Stranger never actually teleports, at most he just dashes from one spot to the other in a blur.
Resistance to Gravity Manipulation (walks on water, resists falling from great heights without any sort of help)
... He isn't even actually walking on water here, his feet go below the surface a little bit. Then again, the Scale also later drags them under the water for an attack, but... eh it's weird, like a lot of this game honestly, which is why I like it
Just being able to fall well is more a dura or skill feat. You don't have to resist gravity to not get yeeted against the pavement, especially when you're Tier 7 (/8 depending on how high recalcs get)
Corruption (His very presence causes the area around him to decay)
I'm fine with this, but, for one, it should be specified to be Type 2, and for two, it should be non combat applicable. Even when he stands next to perfectly ordinary people, these effects don't really do anything. I don't see why someone like The Beat, who's just a kid with tech, should be able to resist it. Then again, maybe everyone just resists it except for grass and the ground, I dunno
In Conclusion
Furi is cool but it also has plenty of room to be wack that we've kinda used rather liberally by the looks of things
Also, I should probably calc the flight suit feat we currently rate as in the rel range