Fix speed Inazuma eleven

[Shadow_x007x]

Because the mathematics of this calculation has been verified. What we will upgrade is what level we will use to upgrade.

Topics to be changed​

Feat

Inazuma eleven 3​

(Low end)​

Speed Massively Hypersonic+ (respond to black thunder) Higher (via Self Development)

(Mid end)​

Speed Relativistic (respond to black thunder) Higher (vai Self Development)

(High end)​

Speed FTL (respond to black thunder) Higher (vai Self Development)

Inazuma eleven go - Inazuma eleven go galaxy​

(Low end)​

Speed Massively Hypersonic+ (at least equivalent to Inazuma eleven ss 3) possibly FTL (With Keshin, Keshin Armed and Mixi Max as Kousoku no Maxim, speed beyond light is specified.)

(Mid end)​

Speed Relativistic (at least equivalent to Inazuma eleven ss 3) possibly FTL (With Keshin, Keshin Armed and Mixi Max as Kousoku no Maxim, speed beyond light is specified.)

(High end)​

Speed FTL (at least equivalent to Inazuma eleven ss 3) Higher (With Keshin, Keshin Armed and Mixi Max.)
agree (Low end):
agree (Mid end):
agree (High end) @DarkGrath @DarkDragonMedeus @Dark-Carioca

 

[Shadow_x007x]

@Ryuukimaru @Jinx666 Please disturb

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks good.

 

[Shadow_x007x]

Which level should we use? Personally, I think Mid end is the safest level and not too low.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Mid end looks fine to me.

 

[Shadow_x007x]

Thank you for your assessment.

 

[Shadow_x007x]

Bump

 

[DarkGrath]

From the provided calc, I unfortunately have no particular context as to which end is the most reasonable for the feat. I don't know the verse, or what relevance the ends have to the characters.

Furthermore, there's a much more pressing issue - from what I can understand in the blog, each end of the feat is derived from inferring how fast the character using Black Thunder is by taking the speed feats of other characters (per Bakuretsu Punch, Ryuusei Blade, and The Tower) and using how fast these feats have been calced as a base of comparison. In other words, "how much faster is the person using Black Thunder compared to users of these abilities?".

This is calc stacking, as evident by the fact that the calced speeds of these feats in question are used in the calcs for each end, and this shouldn't have been accepted in the first place. Calc stacking is not permitted on profiles.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Hm, that'd be calc stacking yeah...

 

[Shadow_x007x]

Thank you for your assessment.

 

[DarkGrath]

I've talked with a couple of people off-site regarding this, including a Calc Group member.

Turns out, I was mistaken - given that the speed of Bakuretsu Punch, Ryuusei Blade, and The Tower could be inferred through statements and comparisons to standards, rather than explicit calculations, using them in a calc for scaling up a different character's speed would not be considered calc stacking. As such, my previous concern was invalid.

I apologise for the confusion.

 

[Shadow_x007x]

No problem. Do you agree on low, mid or high?

 

[DarkGrath]

I unfortunately still have too little context on the series to say for sure which end is most reasonable.

However, if the characters in the series can demonstrate reacting to The Tower, then the High End should be acceptable.

 

[Shadow_x007x]

Well, I just saw the possibility that the high end could be better. Because the character who is a player in the Inazuma eleven Japan team is much faster than Kazemaru during Inazuma eleven ss 2, Kazemaru's achievement is that he can avoid lightning. So I have an opinion for you to give a high rating. because it may not be too high

 

[Shadow_x007x]

Hm, that'd be calc stacking yeah...

Can we get your feedback again?

 

[KitagawaMarin]

Good

 

[Shadow_x007x]

You think we should use Iow Mid High, personally I think High end is a good choice.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

High end is fine by me.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

I suppose high end works, then...