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Fire Emblem: Lyon upgrades

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Lyon was fought by Eirika and Ephraim right before facing off against Formotiis, this was with them having Sieglinde and Siegmund, he was also able to release Formotiis from the Fire Emblem/Sacred Stone of Grado by breaking the seal, after the battle, he was even able survive in battle against Eirika and Ephraim in Chapter 17, right after they obtained Sieglinde and Siegmund


Changes made by this:

Country level Lyon (fought against Eirika and Ephraim right after they obtained Sieglinde and Siegmund, Was also still barely alive after being defeated by them again, but died after)

At least Country level Formotiis (Is stronger than Lyon)
 
Formotiis is a key for Lyon, he's country level for causing an Earthquake that destroyed most of Grado iirc
 
Summary: Lyon fought Country level Eirika and Ephraim twice, Formotiis is stronger, therefore Country level Lyon and At least Country level Formotiis
 
Now it's been awhile since I've played sacred stones but I don't recall Eirika or Ephraim having any country level feats neither in strength or durability.I think I would've remembered that tbh.
 
Eirika and Ephraim have country level durability due to surviving attacks from Formotis. And considering they could trade blows in Linked Arena for example, their AP should also be Country Level and therefore Formotis's durability.
 
Then why doesn't this site have Marth,Chrom,Lucinas etc durability at the level you have their villains at?(not that said ratings are accurate but still)Also,really?You're seriously using a noncanon multiplayer mode to justify it?Isn't that the equivalent of scaling Dan to Akuma because he can beat him in a multiplayer match?
 
Those ratings are inaccurate anyway, they could all take hits from the final boss (Awakening even did it in a cutscenes)
 
All you're doing is saying I'm wrong without backing it up, any proof as to why Formotiis doesn't have Country level Dura?
 
Formotiis attacks with punches, one must be able to take the force of their own punches or else you'd be tearing yourself apart with each hit
 
And no, I meant when the entire party survived an attack from Grima, right before the final battle where they all lived (and all attacks after that were on a smaller scale)
 
No, the only people who were canonically fighting Grima were Robin, Chrom, and Lucina, that could be considered an outlier for the rest of the party
 
It's not just the linked Arena, Eirika and Ephraim, I already explained have country level durability scaling from Formotis. But both Lyon and Formotis have been shown to trade blows with the Lords; it be weird to call those two glass cannons with Eiraka and Ephraim being gentle tanks. Also, Roy dodging Aureola would also have to come from linked Arena considering an enemy unit has never been in a possesion of any of the S-Class weapons; so I have no reason not to say Ephraim and Eirika are country level at end game.
 
Well, the Aureola thing comes from landing hitsbon people who can dodge Aureola, but that's not the point.
 
JustSomeWeirdo said:
No, the only people who were canonically fighting Grima were Robin, Chrom, and Lucina, that could be considered an outlier for the rest of the party
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So why exactly would this be an outlier for the entire cast but not be 9ne for the main 3 when their best feat is like,wall level?Gow is thst any less of an outlier?
 
Because they weren't canonically there, and their best feat is being on par with Nowi
 
"Not canonically there" lol ok.So you're saying that they fought an eldritch abomination on their own instead of taking as much help as they needed?Even using the loloptional excuse that this site instantly dismisses 99% of the time,IIRC the only character required to bring along is Chrom.
 
They all could've died at any point in the game, I doubt Casual mode is canon to the series
 
Also, iirc, Grima was also holding back for when he was trying to trick Robin into joining him
 
Lol I take it you're new to the series?Canon 8s everyone survived.This is the case for every FE game.Besides,by this same logic Lucina also could've retired long before the final fight so she wouldn't scale,either.
 
I'm not new to the series, the canon is that these events happen, and if they live or die is up to how good the player is
 
Literally every time a direct sequel comes out everyone from the previous game survived.Again,by your own logic why would Lucina have canonically contributed any more than the rest of the party?
 
The only people who canonically survived in Awakening would be Chrom, Robin, Lucina, Inigo, Owain, and Severa
 
None of this has anything to do with the topic at hand, I request that you take your issue with these stats to your own content revision page, as you have just been wasting time while people could've been discussing the topic instead.
 
I can support this upgrade. I'm not knowledgable on the verse, but the upgrade should work and the logic seems solid.
 
Well, this upgrade can come in either a new key (Base/Post Formotiis Lyon), which will be in the middle of the current keys, or upgrading his first key, which the former is more accurate imo
 
I do not think that even extremely strong Earthquakes tend to be rated as anywhere close to Country level.
 
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