Final Michael Myers Justification Removal

[Nullflowerblush]

The Final Timeline Michael Myers currently has "Heavily cracked a car door window just by slapping it" as part of his 1978 justification. However, in that scene, Michael had a wrench in the palm of his hands; the current link does not show the wrench well, but the 2021 Remastered version does.

 

[Da3ggman]

Agree

 

[Just_Butchering]

Question though, why isn't Michael crushing Sartain's head with an stomp a feat listed on his profile?

 

[Da3ggman]

That's a good point, actually. Would that qualify as street or wall level?

 

[TheShape03]

Question though, why isn't Michael crushing Sartain's head with an stomp a feat listed on his profile?

I remember in one thread they decided not to add that feat because it wasn't necessary, or so I think.

That's a good point, actually. Would that qualify as street or wall level?

It is a Street level feat according to the common feats page.

 

[Just_Butchering]

It is a Street level feat according to the common feats page.

Huh, I thought it was higher.
Well, I mean, it's still worth mentioning. For one I don't think kicking a police partition is 9-B, but that aside, Michael crushed Sartain's skull too casually, which is worth something

 

[SomaKing13]

The Final Timeline Michael Myers currently has "Heavily cracked a car door window just by slapping it" as part of his 1978 justification. However, in that scene, Michael had a wrench in the palm of his hands; the current link does not show the wrench well, but the 2021 Remastered version does.

While it's true they used a wrench behind the scenes, it's actually supposed to be him showing off strength with his bare hands in the actual context of the movies which is why he does it with an open palm with with the wrench clearly attached to his arm instead of actually holding it, almost every BTS/documentary about Halloween talks about this and how it's just a filming mistake of the time that you can see the wrench. Similar to how people switch to dummies or how sometimes you can catch the strings on things,

 

[Qawsedf234]

I checked out the novelization and here's the passage regarding this scene

She gave it a quarter turn with her free hand, but the problem was that her head was out the window and the man's grip was too strong for her to pull back inside the car. Frantically she clawed at the hand. A finger passed over her open, screaming mouth. She clamped her teeth on it with all her might. The thing let out an inhuman howl and momentarily relaxed its grip. She yanked her head back inside and closed the window on his hand. He roared again and pulled his hand out of the window before her last turn on the knob clamped him irrevocably.

Marion clutched at her throat and gasped for air. She was momentarily safe, but an instant later she had her hands full at the window on the passenger side. The inmate, still on the roof, had struck the window with shattering force, and the window's protective glass had cracked into a thousand geometric splinters that adhered to each other for the moment but would fly into the car next time he struck it. The thing peered upside down into the car, and Marion saw a ghastly rain-soaked creature made even more horrible by the spiderweb pattern of the cracked window.

Now, in blind panic, she stepped full on the gas pedal. The tires keened on the wet pavement, then took hold and the car lurched forward. Marion tore around sharply from left to right to left again. The car swayed and skidded, but the thing, clinging to the windshield wiper and a door handle, somehow managed to hold on. The rain cascaded down the windshield and she couldn't see a thing; she certainly didn't see the parking lot curb when she struck it at forty miles an hour. The wheel tore out of her hand and her chin struck the rim. The station wagon spun wildly out of control, hurling her across the seat to the passenger side. Then it struck another curb broadside, and from that moment on Marion remembered nothing until she was being helped to her feet by Loomis. She lay on the soaked grass of an embankment, a violent ringing in her ears, the nerves in her scalp throbbed from the pain of her hair having been violently pulled

The implication from the novel is that Michael just used his hands to crack the glass since the passage never mentioned a tool being used.

It's very likely that it was a production hiccup rather than an intentional bonus freeze frame in my view.

 

[TheShape03]

Huh, I thought it was higher.
Well, I mean, it's still worth mentioning. For one I don't think kicking a police partition is 9-B, but that aside, Michael crushed Sartain's skull too casually, which is worth something

In fact, I don't fully understand why kicking a police partition is 9-B, either, but since I'm not fully informed on what attaches the partition to the car, then I just won't object. On the other hand, yes, I think the skull thing is at least worth mentioning.

 

[Just_Butchering]

I don't fully understand why kicking a police partition is 9-B

Maybe he is 9-B from ripping the kitchen counter?

 

[SomaKing13]

Maybe he is 9-B from ripping the kitchen counter?

pretty sure thats more lifting strength than AP

 

[Just_Butchering]

pretty sure thats more lifting strength than AP

Yeah, but it stills shows how insanely superior he is to an ordinary human. Like, I don't think even olympic athletes could do such feat.

 

[TheShape03]

Yeah, but it stills shows how insanely superior he is to an ordinary human. Like, I don't think even olympic athletes could do such feat.

It's still a feat of lifting strength, though, and I'm sure it works differently than striking strength. Not to mention that the profile and in the thread where the level of this version of Michael was discussed mentions that said level was given to him for breaking the police partition. I think if the feat can't be calculated or we don't have any reference, Michael should drop to "At least Street Level".

 

[Just_Butchering]

Pretty sure there's no way of calculating such feat.
Maybe looking up how tough those are?
Even then, I would assume no human can take them down while Michael did so easily, but even then, Idk if that's enough.

Not to mention that the profile and in the thread where the level of this version of Michael was discussed mentions that said level was given to him for breaking the police partition.

And no one asked for a reference? Or the OP never clarify why that feat it's at such level?
Again, I assume Michael is far stronger than a human, but idk if this qualifies for 9-B for sure.

if the feat can't be calculated or we don't have any reference, Michael should drop to "At least Street level".

I'll see if I find anything, but yeah, if not he should be "At least Street level (Stronger than before. The partition feat and the skull feat)

 

[Da3ggman]

Damn, how did this turn into a downgrade thread for Michael? Anywho, I agree with Butchering that he should get downgraded unless the Partition feat is calced at Wall level

 

[Just_Butchering]

Damn, how did this turn into a downgrade thread for Michael?

Things happen lol

 

[Just_Butchering]

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[Just_Butchering]

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