Fight for the 5th strongest 8-C

[StrymULTRA]

Requested from YuriAkuto

D:

Caliborn:

Incon:

 

[Ionliosite]

Doesn't D have Tier 1 passives?

 

[QuasiYuri]

Akashic is Low 1-C iirc; but Caliborn has 1-A passives.

 

[Ionliosite]

... What's up with the influx of Tier 1 passives? LOL, I remember when that was rare. I'll be saying Caliborn stomps in the mean time.

 

[Everything12]

Passive Fate, Probability, Causality and Plot Manipulation (Has a passive control over the forces of inevitability, which make in sort that all outcomes, possibilities, and causality will answer him, to the point of being able to control everything that happens and can happen, even retroactively, to the point of also being protected by the influence of his future selves who mastered these forces), Immortality and Conceptual Manipulation (Type 8. As a "supreme villain", he can't be stopped from coming into being, nor can he be made dead until Paradox Space allows it. His influence make so that he can also only be truly killed if every point in his existence is "validated", otherwise it will lead to a conceptual unraveling where everything will be "retroactively discredited")

This stuff reaches the 1-A part of Homestuck.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

... What's up with the influx of Tier 1 passives? LOL, I remember when that was rare. I'll be saying Caliborn stomps in the mean time.

People startd looking for them more

 

[RM97]

Doesn't D have Tier 1 passives?

Not really. His passives are strong enough to affect someone like This Guy but that's about it.

 

[00potato]

So this depends on if D’s passives are resisted or not.
If so Incon
If not Goblin wins.

 

[Everything12]

Except for the part where these 1-A Passives laugh at D's Low 1-C Passives even if they could affect Caliborn. As soon as the match starts and Caliborn desires D's death then that outcome is guaranteed to happen.

Passive Fate, Probability, Causality and Plot Manipulation (Has a passive control over the forces of inevitability, which make in sort that all outcomes, possibilities, and causality will answer him, to the point of being able to control everything that happens and can happen, even retroactively, to the point of also being protected by the influence of his future selves who mastered these forces)

 

[00potato]

The passives don’t seem include any form of negation so D’s still work.
Voting incon.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Except for the part where these 1-A Passives laugh at D's Low 1-C Passives even if they could affect Caliborn. As soon as the match starts and Caliborn desires D's death then that outcome is guaranteed to happen.

Yeah, we all agreed that is a stomp in Caliborn's favor, now's he literally discussed if be on par or below just Umi charas

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

If the hax of D can deal with caliborn and he does not have resistance and the hax from caliborn can deal with D if he does not resist and both are passive I say incon also

 

[QuasiYuri]

Incon situation would get nulled by conceptual unraveling tho

 

[00potato]

Scan proving that?

 

[RM97]

I love how peeps just ignored my comment about D not having Low 1-C passives.
Also to clarify, his passives are Empathic Hax, Fear Hax, and Paralysis Hax. His resistances on the other hand are all Low 1-C cuz of the Records.

 

[QuasiYuri]

T

Scan proving that?

There's litteraly a whole blog on his profile about it

 

[Lightning_XXI]

D's Passives are Low 1-C by affecting his perfect clone (Twin D) who has his powers, including D's Resistances (Which some of them are Tier 1)

Now, that was 3-A/High 3-A D, not 8-C D

 

[RM97]

Twin D is highly debatable. We can't assume Twin D's resistances are on the same level (aka Tier 1 Resistances) as original D's when the former is an imperfect and unsuccessful twin/clone of D which is even reiterated by Sacred Ancestor. Then again, at that point in the story, Akashic Records wasn't a thing, so Twin D should scale to whatever level D was.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Yeap, I agree with you

Just saying the reason why D currently has this