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Featherine Augustus Aurora VS Shallow Vernal
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Noneless21
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sigh
anyway, from what I remember, FAA didn't have anything on 1-A level so there's not a single chance she can do anything to Shiro, but FAA has NEP (barring outdated NEP) and Shiro didn't have any feat on affecting NEP people so it's an incon
anyway, from what I remember, FAA didn't have anything on 1-A level so there's not a single chance she can do anything to Shiro, but FAA has NEP (barring outdated NEP) and Shiro didn't have any feat on affecting NEP people so it's an incon
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FA is 1A, isn't she?
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Yes but there's a need to show your hax on 1-A scale now in order to get 1-A hax
Shiro on the other hand, her Epilogue is 1-A so her Epilogue skill is in 1-A potency but not everything else
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What might those hax be or is it simply layers?
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Wdym?
I dunno squat about FAA, all I know is that she didn't have any hax that works in 1-A scale
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Think of this as a lack of knowledge from a new member. I am still unclear with what a poster means when they say, "1A hax." Does it mean that their hax are layered to a certain degree or do they have some hax that is exclusive to 1A?
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1-A hax is basically hax that works in 1-A scale, like a character capable of haxing a 1-A being or any character that has 1-A resistance, that means their hax is in 1-A scale, or their existence is in 1-A scale, so their hax is in 1-A scale too logically (you can say it's layers, but it's not exactly layers either)
FAA, on the other hand, didn't have any 1-A hax even though she's 1-A herself because she never demonstrate any hax on 1-A scale from what I heard
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Is it because her Epilogue is 1A that it is given '1-A with Epilogue'? which is her 1-A hax.
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The Epilogue is an ability that will always stand at the end in all conditions, as such regardless of what ability or how poweful you are, it will always be beyond it, as it's not a ability which can be compared to others, it's beyond all that, this is within the context of the series of course.
So yes to answer the question the Epilogue is 1-A, and "True Form Shiro" which is being used here is the Epilogue itself, and thus 1-A.
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I see, so what's your opinion on this match up?
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Pretty much what @Noneless21 said, it's incon.
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Faa's NEP is nature type 1 at best if we follow the new standards with the aspect of 2 (can ''exist'' after being conceptually erased), basically possessing the same nature of NEP with the stupid goddess, which isn't nearly enough to stop Epilogue (you would need aspect type 5 narrative-based at the minimum).
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Though the Epilogue is 1-A in potency, because it nature is above everything that is below 1-A. It hasn't shown the ability to affect other 1-As who are on the same level as it, because it hasn't shown that it can function without it's nature of being above the target.
It's like 1-A Plot Manipulation that's 1-A because it worked on someone High 1-B.
It's like 1-A Plot Manipulation that's 1-A because it worked on someone High 1-B.
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no? without The Epilogue, Shiro won't be 1-A, that's why everything listed under "The Epilogue" is 1-A in potency because The Epilogue itself is what make Shiro 1-A, not the other way around
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I said The Epilogue is 1-A, but it gained that tier and works by being above the target, and doesn't have feats of affecting other 1-As. So shouldn't be capable of affecting beings equal to it.
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the thing is Shiro also can end herself, her immortality is the only reason why she still exist even after she delete herself
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Does she end herself as in Shiro, who isn't 1-A, or herself as The Epilogue, which is 1-A?
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it's the latter, she tried many times, didn't work
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Scan pls.
Noneless21
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So uhh, i have a confession, i remember wrong about Shiro actually end herself, it just that there's nothing in Isekai at Peace verse can truly end Shiro from this scan (yes, that includes the Epilogue is useless too)
Also, go to the Isekai at Peace general discussion thread, it should be explained why The Epilogue is truly 1-A potency
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No one, Shiro can't touch FAA because NEP and FAA can't do jack because she doesn't have any real 1-A *****
Noneless21
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The irony of 1-A matches
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Faa nep is useless according to the new standard
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What standard?
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maybe that aside from nep 2 nep bound by tier and can be effected by r>f
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Oh ok. What type of NEP does FAA have?
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I see but isn't that NEP 1A? So, The Epilogue shouldn't be able to affect it right? Or am I missing something.
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Layers in 1-a kinda big
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Type 1 NEP (nature) doesn't help anything atm. From what I remember, witches have the old type 2 NEP due to existing after being conceptually erased, which would be Nature type 1 and aspect type 2 according to the new standard.
That is pretty much useless since you are only immune to concept hax and still vulnerable to everything else, especially when plot manip in At peace is considered to be superior to type 1 concept manip.
So, nothing really prevents Epilogue from gg-ing
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I think you are gonna need a CRT for that.
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what? If it's not up-to-date with the ability then it can't even legitimately be used in threads, I'm being generous here for giving her today's standard ratings
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Then update it I guess...? Aca 5 is a mess but its still being used ya know?? Unless the update is made on it, the standards on the profile should be accepted and taken for the discussion. Atleast that's what I understood on how the forum functions.
