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Excorist's and Sorcerer's: Yu Kanda vs Yuta Okkotsu
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ThePrimalHunter
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You accidentally posted this to FC/OC, not VS Battles Wiki
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Huh? I don't even have a FC/OC account.
ThePrimalHunter
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If you have a VS Battles Wiki account you can still post on the FC/OC Vs Battles Wiki Fourms as they use the same website for VS debates. This is a common accident
Just copy and paste this match and move it to the VS Battles Wiki section
Just copy and paste this match and move it to the VS Battles Wiki section
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This isn't on FC/OC. This is on Vs Battles wiki. I'm really not sure what you mean whenever I'm looking directly on the vs Battles wiki page for this thread. Are you seeing something different?
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Aight that's weird as he'll, I can't recall posting in the FC/OC section but I'll have this thread moved to the appropriate section.
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Thread has been moved.
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I'm familiar with Yuta but don't know anything about Yu. He seems pretty kitted out in P+A, what's his fighting style like and how does he use those illusions?
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Most of that only works on things like spiritual entities so Yuta himself would be fine but Innocence would cause fundamental damage to Rika.
Kanda uses swordsmanship, such as various schooling of swordsmanship, and his illusions are physical. They're used to amp his stats to blitz and one shot levels.
Arkenis
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As far as sword skill goes Yuta's pretty unimpressive, so if he tries engaging in a sword fight it won't go well for him, his ce control was also not its best during vol 0.
Rika's probably his best bet here with any copied ct he has but its only Cursed Speech and he also isn't very good with that.
Yu really just needs his amps here and he kills Yuta within a short time just off sword skill and amps. Voting Yu.
Rika's probably his best bet here with any copied ct he has but its only Cursed Speech and he also isn't very good with that.
Yu really just needs his amps here and he kills Yuta within a short time just off sword skill and amps. Voting Yu.
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I wouldn't call Yuta skills unimpressive, he manage to stand against Geto using the Playful Cloud, an special grade tool that manages to maximize the user strength
Also, Yu would essentially be fighting two opponents with Rika and Yuta (And i don't think Volume 0 Rika has the 5 minutes timer limit of later on)
Besides that Yuta can also use reversed curse energy to heal himself in the long term
Finally, the special grade soccer has an pretty big AP advantage: While Yu is responsible for an 1.45 kilotons final attack feat Yuta scales to either casual's 1.72 and 2.95 kilotons feats.
Having said all of that, would be cool to have the opinion of an JJK supporter
OBS: I also noticed that the rules of the match demand no killing
EldemadeDityjon
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Yuta scales to neither of them. His Low 7-C scaling is from Gojo powering Chlna. Which is around 1.32 value
Arkenis
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That has nothing to do with skill?
Doesn't matter much, both aren't very good in skill to overwhelm Yu here.
And Yu scales to 2.9 Kilotons and can amp himself even further from that much more than Yuta can.
I am a jjk supporter lmao.
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He scales to both, considering he can palm stronger Granite Blasts than the one Ryu did to make the calc, and then be slightly inferior to his maximum.
Arkenis
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Just noticed this but Yuta's healing in vol 0 isn't good like it was in Culling Games, Yu's explosion manipulation would end the fight once he decides on using it, he'd land a slash on Yuta, Yuta being unaware of it would just try healing but end up getting exploded and killing him.
EldemadeDityjon
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I agree with CG Yuta downscaling from Ryu's Blast but here we are talking about JJk0 key.
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Also not sure if this key that's being used for Yu has exploding spirit slash.
Outside of that none of Yu's offensive hax from Innocence would effect Yuta as he isn't a evil / spiritual entity but it'd effect Rika just fine.
Outside of that none of Yu's offensive hax from Innocence would effect Yuta as he isn't a evil / spiritual entity but it'd effect Rika just fine.
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Oh sure, I agree.
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Bump it it makes it more fair I can switch to current Maki with the soul spilt katana.
Arkenis
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She’s get one shot since she’s really low into 8-A.
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Ahh she had tier 7 removed.
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The issue with Low 7-C Kanda is that we don't know if he has access to 2nd and 3rd Illusions whilst in this key. We aren't given anything which implies that he does, and in fact, the surrounding context can be argued to imply the opposite (with Kanda training and getting stronger from the Suman Dark Arc to the Noah's Ark Arc). It's because of this that I wouldn't personally say that Kanda has access to his 2nd and 3rd Illusions in this key, which only leaves him with 1st Illusion, which only summons netherworld creatures to home and attack the opponent.
This doesn't mean that Kanda can't win this match, it's just harder for him to win it. I'll remain neutral until I see more arguments for Yuta since I already know what Kanda's wincons are.
This doesn't mean that Kanda can't win this match, it's just harder for him to win it. I'll remain neutral until I see more arguments for Yuta since I already know what Kanda's wincons are.
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Yuta might actually take it with this key of Kanda tbh. To my knowledge he doesn't have the higher end Mugen amps and he hasn't learned exploding spirit cut as far as I'm aware.
Although Innocence would be a major problem to Rika and if Yuta loses her he loses a large chunk of his abilities.
Although Innocence would be a major problem to Rika and if Yuta loses her he loses a large chunk of his abilities.
noisyPitta
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His combat ability is pretty good but when it comes to actual skill regarding swordplay, he pales in comparison to anyone with real training. Yeah he can swing a sword but he was never taught proper form and stance like other swordsman do. JJK has a real problem when it comes to martial skill
And with this, I think it makes clear that Yuta again has no reason to need real skill, he can just power through it with AP difference and RCT.
I don't even think he needs Rika in this fight, unless it drags on for a long time and he runs low on CE.
Voting Yuta
