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Good day! This thread is aimed to show that Daos in the series "Journey of the Fate Destroying Emperor" are potentially type 1 concepts.
Although the series itself hasn't been indexed, I want to establish the power of Daos and Divine Runes before publishing any of my profiles.
Before I write anything, most of this was neatly written by @Lysairth, and major thanks to them!
Before getting into Dao, it’s important to understand about Law first.
Law is the fundamental concepts that govern over realities, and that includes Chaos, Creation, Destruction, Fate, Time, Space, etc.
Additionally,Void Shattering and Saint Realm Cultivators could not use their Laws if the laws of Heaven and Earth are destroyed. Only Supreme Realm Cultivators and above, who condensed a Dao Fruit, are able to use their laws even if the laws of heaven and earth were destroyed. Generally, this might mean that Laws are just type 2, but there are a few feats that might prove they are type 1 as well. Regardless, we first have to show the power of Daos, written below.
Dao in itself, is the evolved form of Law, which has begun to gain independence from the object they governed, meaning they wont be affected by the destruction of those aspects, but the same could not be said when the situation is reversed, and not to say that by becoming a Dao, said aspect also becomes the origin of all laws.
In conclusions, Dao is a type 1 Concept, I don't think there is any problems with that.
Now here comes the problem. Laws, as we defined, are probably a type 2 concept, considering Cultivators cannot use its powers outside of their world, and there are restrictions, and it wasn't shown if they were independent or not. Honestly, this "restriction and not being able to use outside the world" seems more like the fact that they are outside of their area of influence, hence the restrictions, not necessarily they are bound to reality. Especially considering Law users could kill Dao users.
The thing is, Wang Wei (The Protagonist), is casually able to kill Supreme Cultivators with his "Law", despite the cultivators having a type 1 concept and being resistant to it.
Personally, although the evidence is slim, I suggest normal Laws to be Type 2, possibly/likely type 1.
Sorry if it seems rushed or a bit messy, I'm really tired right now and dizzy, but I want to get this over with so that I can publish the profile as soon as possible.
Additionally, this is merely a summary of Daos and Laws. There are many other classification of Laws, and there are Daos above normal ones, and are the source of them. However, that is left for another CRT as those could be considering Higher Dimensional to even potentially Low Outerversal, so we'll tackle it later in another CRT.
Agree: @Orioreeem, @Lycoris4812, @BreezeHM (Agrees with everything, but wants laws to be type 2), @Setsuna_tenma, @Rakih_Elyan (Agrees with everything with laws being type 2), @Bernkastelll (Agrees with everything but laws are type 2), @ActuallySpaceMan42 (Agrees, but laws are type 2), @Child_of_destiny
Disagree:
Neutral:
*Bold names mean staff.
Although the series itself hasn't been indexed, I want to establish the power of Daos and Divine Runes before publishing any of my profiles.
Before I write anything, most of this was neatly written by @Lysairth, and major thanks to them!
Classification
Before getting into Dao, it’s important to understand about Law first.
Law is the fundamental concepts that govern over realities, and that includes Chaos, Creation, Destruction, Fate, Time, Space, etc.
In conclusion, Law-precisely Regular Law-is a type 2 Concept.
Additionally,Void Shattering and Saint Realm Cultivators could not use their Laws if the laws of Heaven and Earth are destroyed. Only Supreme Realm Cultivators and above, who condensed a Dao Fruit, are able to use their laws even if the laws of heaven and earth were destroyed. Generally, this might mean that Laws are just type 2, but there are a few feats that might prove they are type 1 as well. Regardless, we first have to show the power of Daos, written below.
Dao
Dao in itself, is the evolved form of Law, which has begun to gain independence from the object they governed, meaning they wont be affected by the destruction of those aspects, but the same could not be said when the situation is reversed, and not to say that by becoming a Dao, said aspect also becomes the origin of all laws.
It was shown that even when everything was destroyed, including the Universe itself, the Daos still existed, as shown when after everything was destroyed, the Gigantic Hand then destroyed the Daos.
Now here comes the problem. Laws, as we defined, are probably a type 2 concept, considering Cultivators cannot use its powers outside of their world, and there are restrictions, and it wasn't shown if they were independent or not. Honestly, this "restriction and not being able to use outside the world" seems more like the fact that they are outside of their area of influence, hence the restrictions, not necessarily they are bound to reality. Especially considering Law users could kill Dao users.
The thing is, Wang Wei (The Protagonist), is casually able to kill Supreme Cultivators with his "Law", despite the cultivators having a type 1 concept and being resistant to it.
Personally, although the evidence is slim, I suggest normal Laws to be Type 2, possibly/likely type 1.
Divine Runes
Now comes Divine Runes. These are interesting, as they seem to be like a code of reality. They were described to be a physical manifestation of the rules of Heaven and Earth (Universe/Space-time). Physical here is a bit weird, since runes are not visible usually.Everything in the world is made of runes (Which is shown by a doing a method to see all runes):
And Divines Runes were directly stated to be like a code, using to code reality itself:
Considering Runes are everywhere, are considered to be a manifestation of the laws, used to gain information about stuff, and are directly stated to code reality and were stated to be similar to codes, I think Divine Runes might qualify for Type 2 Information manipulation.
Conclusion
In general;- Laws in the verse are Fundamental Concepts, and should be Type 2, to possibly type 1 concepts.
- Daos are type 1 concept since even after the destruction of everything, they still exist, independently.
- Divines Runes were stated to be like codes, and were stated to code reality itself, and are everywhere, and can be used to glimpse at the laws. They are type 2 information.
Sorry if it seems rushed or a bit messy, I'm really tired right now and dizzy, but I want to get this over with so that I can publish the profile as soon as possible.
Additionally, this is merely a summary of Daos and Laws. There are many other classification of Laws, and there are Daos above normal ones, and are the source of them. However, that is left for another CRT as those could be considering Higher Dimensional to even potentially Low Outerversal, so we'll tackle it later in another CRT.
Agree: @Orioreeem, @Lycoris4812, @BreezeHM (Agrees with everything, but wants laws to be type 2), @Setsuna_tenma, @Rakih_Elyan (Agrees with everything with laws being type 2), @Bernkastelll (Agrees with everything but laws are type 2), @ActuallySpaceMan42 (Agrees, but laws are type 2), @Child_of_destiny
Disagree:
Neutral:
*Bold names mean staff.
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