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Erza Scarlet VS John Constantine

What's John's AP and what does he lead with?

Erza scales above 2.4 Megatons in base and can oneshot people who are stronger than her Base state with her stronger armors
 
If he leads with transmutation which Erza resists than what's stopping Erza from cutting through his barrier and oneshotting him?
 
Erza typically leads with Danmaku spam which would likely get through his barrier given her higher AP and since he has wall level dura normally he gets oneshot.
 
Also he doesn't really have a counter to Erza's range given his is only standerd melee higher with magic. While Erza's is several hundred meters to kilometers.
 
Erza only resists Transmutation via Holy Hammer, nothing else and I don't recall her ever starting out with it? Matter of fact she's only ever used it once, so pretty OOC. Also you'd need to compare John's level of Transmutation vs Erza's Resistance granted by the Holy Hammer.

(I.E Molecular, Atomic, etc.)
 
There's the fact that John is a manipulative jerk and would end up getting laid defeating her. In magical terms, she knows a lot of things but it isn't enough to go full offensive against that british dude. So... yeah, John defeats her.
 
BleedingPeach said:
There's the fact that John is a manipulative jerk and would end up getting laid defeating her. In magical terms, she knows a lot of things but it isn't enough to go full offensive against that british dude. So... yeah, John defeats her.
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He wishes
Erza kicks manipulative jerks asses on the daily

But in all seriousness what's he gonna do about Erza's insane range advantage, now I'm not expert but from his fight with Damien he to needs actually cast his barrier for it to defend him and it doesn't fully surround his body. Erza typically leads with long range Danmaku that attacks the opponent from all sides.
 
I would like to say that she's the winner, but the british guy moves on different level regarding intelectual things. I'm not saying she's dumb, but John deals with gals tougher than her in Manchester or Hell, and he won't be surprised to all the blades she has. Hell... even he could end up betting his own life to defeat Erza. And then deceiving the one who bet with him.

EDIT: Ok... my bet changed. If he was the one in the Vertigo comics, then she couldn't even stand her armor on a chance against John. The one from the series? Yeah... How about no?
 
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BleedingPeach said:
I would like to say that she's the winner, but the british guy moves on different level regarding intelectual things. I'm not saying she's dumb, but John deals with gals tougher than her in Manchester or Hell, and he won't be surprised to all the blades she has. Hell... even he could end up betting his own life to defeat Erza. And then deceiving the one who bet with him.

EDIT: Ok... my bet changed. If he was the one in the Vertigo comics, then she couldn't even stand her armor on a chance against John. The one from the series? Yeah... How about no?
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???, I'm having trouble understanding what you mean by the last part are you saying Arrowverse John stomps?
 
I think he's saying the reverse actually. Comic John has feats of outwitting and out smarting several omniscient 1-A's, unfortunately Arrowverse John doesn't have those feats iirc.
 
LordGinSama said:
I think he's saying the reverse actually. Comic John has feats of outwitting and out smarting several omniscient 1-A's, unfortunately Arrowverse John doesn't have those feats iirc.
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This. Constantine, if clever enough, would know that he'll bring a white flag to face her.
 
Yeah comic Constantine has some ridiculous feats.


I'm not sure about Arrowverse tho, I'm not super knowledgeable on the TV series but he MIGHT have something up his sleeves. What are his best feats? Going from the profile Erza seems to match him in deduction prowess.
 
LordGinSama said:
I think he's saying the reverse actually. Comic John has feats of outwitting and out smarting several omniscient 1-A's, unfortunately Arrowverse John doesn't have those feats iirc.
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If comic Constantine can outwit 1-A omniscient beings the fact that they are omniscient on a 1-A scale but can still be fooled by humans boggles my mind, then why the hell is he only Extraordinary Genius level?
 
Zackra1799 said:
If comic Constantine can outwit 1-A omniscient beings the fact that they are omniscient on a 1-A scale but can still be fooled by humans boggles my mind, then why the hell is he only Extraordinary Genius level?
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Vertigo and DC Comics. We won't gonna discuss if she can defeat him.
The Arrowverse one is the used here and I don't know if he can defeat her. My bet WAS on John. WAS.
 
Zackra1799 said:
If comic Constantine can outwit 1-A omniscient beings the fact that they are omniscient on a 1-A scale but can still be fooled by humans boggles my mind, then why the hell is he only Extraordinary Genius level?
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DC is going through a massive revision from what I remember? The profiles even notes this under his intell section so idk why to be exact.
 
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