EMIYA vs Genos

[Gemmysaur]

The man who despises being a "hero"


Wrought-Iron Magus

vs

The "man" who admires a hero


Demon Cyborg

Mindset: In-character

Misc.: EMIYA has Rin as a master.

Location:


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[Gemmysaur]

Ba-Ba-Bump.

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

Emiya is faster and Genos cannot hit intangible opponents.

 

[Gemmysaur]

EMIYA is hypersonic+ with HHS combat speed as per standard servant stats though while Genos is HHS for both.

 

[Reppuzan]

I'd give it to EMIYA for greater versatility overall. He should be more than capable of dodging and blocking Geno's attacks, and he could simply turn into spirit form, appear a few kilometers away, and start firing Hrunting and Projections en masse.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Bump.

 

[Promestein]

Gonna have to go with EMIYA.

More versatility, more experience, and intangibility. His Eye of the Mind would also help quite a lot.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

If Archer doesn't have a Master wouldn't it mean that Genos could outlast him? Anyway Genos has the speed advantage but Archer will play keep away. Then again his only possible way of success is outlasting him and then beating him, or using self destruct as an attack

 

[Promestein]

Archer can act for like two days without a Master.

 

[Reppuzan]

If I remember correctly, that's for as long as he doesn't use high-cost abilities and stays in spirit form for as long as possible.

 

[Gemmysaur]

It doesn't sound very good when EMIYA is masterless. Would you guys think it better to make him Rin's servant? Would it be balanced that way or do we have to remove spirit form?

 

[Reppuzan]

Well, it's not like he can attack in Spirit Form. Plus Spirit Form is a natural part of being summoned as a Heroic Spirit, so in order to take it away you'd have to say that he's incarnated or something (which he never was in canon).

 

[Gemmysaur]

Rin as a master it is then.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Bump.

 

[Gemmysaur]

I have a feeling EMIYA and Genos are not very popular here.

2 - 0 in favor of the Wrought Iron Magus.

Bump.

 

[Sage_God_Slayer]

Emiya mid diff at most.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Bump.

 

[MagiSinbad]

Nope, EMIYA without a master = counter guardian EMIYA, which mean this Emiya got the near-endless magic power from Gaia. Anyway, gonna side with Archer here, you no mess with a guy who have experienced over 1000 battles serious answer : Archer win with higher speed advantage and sword spam from UBW

 

[Gemmysaur]

I have a feeling I'm gonna have to bump this thread for every answer just to get it somewhere.

Anyway, that's 3 - 0 in favor of EMIYA.

@Sage God Slayer; you have to give a reason for your answer to have it accepted in the vote count. Else, say you agree with someone else's answer.

 

[Sage_God_Slayer]

@Sage God Slayer; you have to give a reason for your answer to have it accepted in the vote count. Else, say you agree with someone else's answer.

My reasons are his higher speed, further range, higher perception, his weapon spam and if needed UBWs

 

[Gemmysaur]

Ok then. That's 4-0 in favor of EMIYA.

 

[SomeDude211]

Archer totally wins. Being able to replicate any weapon he's seen like Excalibur? Lol, I just don't see how Genos could win.

 

[Numbersguy]

EMIYA wins if he spams Unlimited Blade Works, because that is the best attack he has to take down Genos.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Archer totally wins. Being able to replicate any weapon he's seen like Excalibur? Lol, I just don't see how Genos could win.

EMIYA cant trace excalibur though. If anything, Miyu's brother Shirou is the closest I'm aware of that can given that he can trace Ig Ilima or whatever name that skyscraper sized conceptual weapon is.

@697086: I assume that's a vote for EMIYA?

 

[KamiYasha]

Also, there is no way that Genos can penetrate Rho Aias.

 

[Gemmysaur]

That's 7-0 I guess?

Anyone else?

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Are they all reasonable? @Gemmy.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Apparently not.

Emiya is faster and Genos cannot hit intangible opponents.

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I'd give it to EMIYA for greater versatility overall. He should be more than capable of dodging and blocking Geno's attacks, and he could simply turn into spirit form, appear a few kilometers away, and start firing Hrunting and Projections en masse.

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Gonna have to go with EMIYA.

My reasons are his higher speed, further range, higher perception, his weapon spam and if needed UBWs

/

More versatility, more experience, and intangibility. His Eye of the Mind would also help quite a lot.

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Archer totally wins. Being able to replicate any weapon he's seen like Excalibur? Lol, I just don't see how Genos could win.

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EMIYA wins if he spams Unlimited Blade Works, because that is the best attack he has to take down Genos.

/

Also, there is no way that Genos can penetrate Rho Aias.

Bolded ones are iffy to me. What say you @CrossverseCrisis? The first bolded one is eh. The second doesn't look like a vote.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Dang. :/

Well i'll bite for one more then head off.

In terms of physical stats, Genos takes it. From what i've seen of both fighters pages, Genos has the advantage of AP, striking strength, and Durability as well as having all-around speed compared to Archer whose normally Town level and is Small City to City level with his abilities. However, Archer does seem to have the reactions to keep up with Genos as even though he's technically weaker than Genos, he has the reactions to make up for it. Though given that his master is not present(?), it depends how much stamina he has before he can use his abilities.

Speaking of which:

Versatility/or Combatents abilties: Here is where it really decides the battles outcome IMO. For Genos, he has his lasers and fire weapons plus a rader that should probably allow him to be able to try and find Archer. EMIYA on the other hand has more stuff go to by such as magic, projection, could turn into a spirit form which likely grants him the ability to phase(?) through Genos attacks, clairvoyance, and can reality warp the battlefield to bring out his Reality Marble.

If anything, i'm leaning towards Archer as long as he's careful of Genos's attacks and try to take him down with his abilties overtime....that's only if his full stamina is enough to do that.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Ignoring the bolded quotes before, your comment makes it 6-0 in favor of the servant of Gar.

There's this as well though.

//Misc.: EMIYA has Rin as a master.//

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Oh well then since Rin is likely present here, this makes my vote go more towards Archer. Guy has the reactions and now energy to slowly but eventually take out Genos.

 

[SomeDude211]

Archer totally wins. Being able to replicate any weapon he's seen like Excalibur? Lol, I just don't see how Genos could win.

EMIYA cant trace excalibur though. If anything, Miyu's brother Shirou is the closest I'm aware of that can given that he can trace Ig Ilima or whatever name that skyscraper sized conceptual weapon is.
@697086: I assume that's a vote for EMIYA?

But didn't Emiya/ Archer himself say to Saber that he could reproduce a convincing replica and what happens when two holy swords clash in the reality marble? Either way, even if he was bluffing or can't. In counter guardian form he would be able to with all that mana/prana he's getting. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Archer could replicate Zanpakutou, it just might take a shitload of mana/prana though.

 

[RadicalMrR]

What happens if genos kills rin?

If thats a instant KO for archer then I give to Genos however if it isn't I will go with Archer for reasons stated above

 

[SomeDude211]

What happens if genos kills rin?
If thats a instant KO for archer then I give to Genos however if it isn't I will go with Archer for reasons stated above

Servants can last for two days without a master. Can't they?

 

[Gemmysaur]

Archer can, because independent action.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Ba-Ba-Bump.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Anyway, I didn't notice but CrossVerseCrisis gave the final vote needed to secure the win.

That's 7-0 in favor of the Servant of GAR.

 

[NotEvenHuman]

Ah, their pages are both open, so you can add the match yourself.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Ok, thanks. I'll add it then.