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Dragon Ball Franchise AP Downgrade

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I wouldn't describe myself as an opponent tbh. I'm a big fan of Dragon Ball.
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Isn't the main supporting arguments for hypertimelines the fact each "Universe" in dragon ball have their own separate space times with the normal universe and other world being such examples? Not the hyperbolic time chamber?
 
The Rosat has statements stating it's another dimension. The room of time doesn't. Hope that helps.
And the blog is accepted.

It quite literally functions as a dimension by sending them to the "past' while the outside world is just.... going on without a clue or care in the world. And by the way every single dimension on the Lookout is stated to be a pocket or alternate dimension, this may not explicitly be called that but we already have a precedent for it with the other dimensions and it literally functions like an alternate dimension.
Plus, https://imgur.com/gallery/shinsenkai-alternate-dimension-9OPjn5f other rooms in the lookout are stated to be alternate dimensions. You have to show that there’s something different about the time room, when multiple of these rooms in the lookout are stated to be dimensions. Also, even if I steelman your position, and this is magically not a dimension. Then, the fact that we see that everything’s fine when the entrance is destroyed still shows that it’s separate somehow. Hope that helps.
 
I wouldn't describe myself as an opponent tbh. I'm a big fan of Dragon Ball.

EDIT: Huh, someone did add me as an opponent on the verse page? I don't remember doing that.
Yeah, I saw u there before, that's why I thought that lol.
 
Isn't the main supporting arguments for hypertimelines the fact each "Universe" in dragon ball have their own separate space times with the normal universe and other world being such examples? Not the hyperbolic time chamber?
Yes and that the time room is the source of these timelines and every universe has its' own time room.

But the when the earth is destroyed nothing happens to the universe.

This whole thing requires a long list of assumptions:

1. The Time Room is a dimension.
2. The Time Room is a dimension like the Rosat
3. The Time Room is unaffected by the earth's destrcution.
3a. Is there any evidence that the Rosat is unaffected by the destruction of the earth?
4. Every universe has its own time room.

There are no statements that support any of the assumptions. It's just assumed. The blog just says, "Should be a pocket dimension"/

I've got no horse in this race but what about this?



Thanks but this is the Rosat. The time room only exists in a filler episode from dragonball. I don't think its ever brought up again after the episode.
 
You guys are all going at once.

So I'll just post this here.

1. You guys are assuming the time room is a dimension, when there is zero statements stating that it's a dimension.
No, we're stating that everything on the Lookout is a dimension and it literally functions like one because there is NO OTHER WAY to travel to the universe's past while having the "outside world" be totally normal
2. IF you watch the episode, Popo and Goku clearly walk through sliding doors to a physical room.
Right, proven that the "sliding doors" are just an entrance to a dimension that serves a specific function
3. Popo activates a clock on the wall and a portal opens up that Goku then uses to time travel.
Right, that's how this dimension operates.
If a time machine opens up a portal inside itself, does that make the time machine a dimension?
Nice try but we already have a million time machines in DB to compare it to, so that's a flawed analogy. Time machines in DB literally hop dimensions (as Bulma and Pilaf state), so your example doesn't work here, the room isn't just a "time machine". Mind telling me how something that creates space and time has anything to do with its physical continuity?
A. You're assuming the time room is a pocket dimension
We're not, we're just making a pretty basic observation given what we know and see
B. You're assuming that the otehr side of the portal is apart of the time room, and not just a time traveling motif that we see in fiction a million times.
This doesn't matter, since it is a separate dimension anyway. And your analogy with the time machine was flawed anyway
C. You're assuming that if the time room is a pocket dimension, that the earth's destruction won't affect it.
Why would it lmao? It literally doesn't exist on earth if we know that it's a pocket dimension. Only way to destroy it is from inside like what Vegeta does to the ROSAT
D. You're assuming that the time room behaves just like the Rosat even though that is never stated.
We never assumed it behaves exactly the same as the ROSAT, not once.
THere are a lot of assumptions going on.
Not any that I can see. You're just trying to brute-force a random conclusion here that, even if it was true, wouldn't do anything to the cosmology because you didn't bother reading previous threads, the blogs, or anything.
Extra ordinary claims require extra ordinary evidence.
Agreed, glad you're finally comin' around to this concept. Unfortunately there's no extraordinary claim here, just mundane, easy observations. Nothing more.
 
No, we're stating that everything on the Lookout is a dimension and it literally functions like one because there is NO OTHER WAY to travel to the universe's past while having the "outside world" be totally normal
Okay, so provide evidence that sates everything on the lookout is a dimension. I'll wait.
We're not, we're just making a pretty basic observation given what we know and see
I just see a room with clocks that can open a portal. That's the basic observation.

It literally doesn't exist on earth if we know that it's a pocket dimension.
But you literally don't know. That's the whole point.
 
@Iamunanimousinthat

Your view is obscurantist. Face it, your thinking is the past. It's over!

The age of enlightenment has dawned upon the powerscaling world, with Sailor Moon as the subject.

On the Dragon Ball cosmology, I don't agree for reasons stated above. The existence of the hyper timeline has been implied by multiple guides, and the three different realms of Universe 7, the existence of the time rings, Whis' statements about Zeno, and Bulma's time machine build upon this concept.
 
A. In Dragon Ball Z ep. 277, Buu destroys the earth.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If the Rosat is immune to the destruction of the earth because its a dimension, why didn't Mr. PoPo tell everyone to run into the Rosat to protect themselves? Instead he watches in frustration and fear like he couldn't do anything?

There's no evidence that the time room is a dimension and there is no evidence that these assumed dimensions would survive earth's destruction.
 
@Iamunanimousinthat

Your view is obscurantist. Face it, your thinking is the past. It's over!

The age of enlightenment has dawned upon the powerscaling world, with Sailor Moon as the subject.

On the Dragon Ball cosmology, I don't agree for reasons stated above. The existence of the hyper timeline has been implied by multiple guides, and the three different realms of Universe 7, the existence of the time rings, Whis' statements about Zeno, and Bulma's time machine build upon this concept.
Not helpin' but still funny
 
Why would it lmao? It literally doesn't exist on earth if we know that it's a pocket dimension. Only way to destroy it is from inside like what Vegeta does to the ROSAT

If the Rosat is immune to the destruction of the earth because its a dimension, why didn't Mr. PoPo tell everyone to run into the Rosat to protect themselves? Instead he watches in frustration and fear like he couldn't do anything?

There's no evidence that the time room is a dimension and there is no evidence that these assumed dimensions would survive earth's destruction.
 
If the Rosat is immune to the destruction of the earth because its a dimension, why didn't Mr. PoPo tell everyone to run into the Rosat to protect themselves? Instead he watches in frustration and fear like he couldn't do anything?

There's no evidence that the time room is a dimension and there is no evidence that these assumed dimensions would survive earth's destruction.
So true bro, I don't know why Popo is so stupid, he should be called Poopoo for this reason. Vote if you agree. Also gonna vote for you to become the next DB writer because you clearly understand the concept of escalation and the point of the destruction of earth and its inhabitants better than anyone else did.
 
So true bro, I don't know why Popo is so stupid, he should be called Poopoo for this reason. Vote if you agree. Also gonna vote for you to become the next DB writer because you clearly understand the concept of escalation and the point of the destruction of earth and its inhabitants better than anyone else did.
So there's zero evidence that the Room of Time is a dimension?

And there's zero evidence that the Rosat's dimension would be unaffected by the earth's destruction?

I know the first question is true. But I am surprised by the second one. I'm sure you have evidence.
 
So there's zero evidence that the Room of Time is a dimension?

And there's zero evidence that the Rosat's dimension would be unaffected by the earth's destruction?

I know the first question is true. But I am surprised by the second one. I'm sure you have evidence.
You haven't see dragon ball in your life, have you?
 
?? I said that destroying earth, means the lookout point is destruction, and that would mean the room of time is also destruction as the room of time is a room inside the look out point.

Again, please feel free to post any actual statements that say the room of time is a dimension.
I can't put an image, but Dende says it's a different dimension, so if you want the panel, come to Discord.
 
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If the Rosat is immune to the destruction of the earth because its a dimension, why didn't Mr. PoPo tell everyone to run into the Rosat to protect themselves? Instead he watches in frustration and fear like he couldn't do anything?

There's no evidence that the time room is a dimension and there is no evidence that these assumed dimensions would survive earth's destruction.
"Why don't they put the Dragon Balls in the Room of Spirit and Time and avoid waiting a whole year?” ahh question
 
If the Rosat is immune to the destruction of the earth because its a dimension, why didn't Mr. PoPo tell everyone to run into the Rosat to protect themselves? Instead he watches in frustration and fear like he couldn't do anything?
I am just going to dismiss this entire thing because you are only using evidence from the anime. Even though, we have repeatedly told you that anime and manga are different canons and have been for quite some time.
 
I am just going to dismiss this entire thing because you are only using evidence from the anime. Even though, we have repeatedly told you that anime and manga are different canons and have been for quite some time.

The hypertimelines only apply to the anime, so I'm like confused as what's your point?
 
It’s so apparently obvious that this is a spite downgrade thread that it’s embarrassing.

This is the kind of stuff that can get you reported bro (I won’t, but someone else might). I’d recommend quitting while you’re ahead; the thread has been unanimously rejected, by literally everyone, anyways.
 
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