Depends on what form the spell takes IG. I looked through her notable skills list, but the image provided for it didn't really give a good shot? If it happens to be akin to an energy ball as shown in it, Dot could dodge, yes?
Energy beam, but she can control its trajectory after firing, basically a pseudo homing attack.
It would basically annihilate whatever it hit.
She can danmaku it and control each path individually.
Maybe, but could he dodge them all? She doesn't need to charge them at all here given lack of layered defensive spells. If he dodges one, but another is coming from behind, it'd be kinda tough to not get hit.
Yesnt. Depends on who. Some do, and some like Ubel fight like chimps on crack.
Frieren herself has thought based magic that forms a shield (the hexagon stuff) and can be used to make an omnidirectional bubble around herself (or just small bits, she makes it as big as it needs to be to save mana). That'd probably help as the defense magic itself has spells that undo other magic that is used against it
That's another problem he has to deal with, as Frieren fights, she analyzes her foe's magic, so she can either 1. Copy it 2. Cast a spell to render it invalid.
They'd probably just pierce it like a cloud of smoke, Zoltraak pierces magic, defenses, matter, etc. Though she can also just make them dodge the blasts.
Yeah, that would be a real problem for Dot then unless he were to be constantly on the move blowing himself up. And while his endurance is insane, I doubt he could take multiple of his own explosions zones to dodge these, when Frieren can just keep firing away.
Yeah, then that's a bag thing then, since the opponent needs to stay in a single spot for the spell to be at its most effective.
I see, so even if they were to explode, the massive difference in power would just get negated by this bubble.
Yeah, that I figured since Frieren is classified as an Extraordinary Genius on her profile. If she can do that, then I doubt that Dot can lead her in the wrong direction.
Fair enough, they are just explosions in the end.
I don't think Dot would be considered a "strong opponent" considering the gap between them isn't that large. Though, it is funny to think that with the current stuff on the profiles, Dot could just push through that telekinesis with his own body.
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If they're magic, her shields have magic null. If they aren't magic, it'd just be a dura thing, in which case 7-C AP can damage her shield (It upscales tho), he probably could crack it or blow it out if it's sufficiently strong blasts, his AP should be fine (Frieren upscales drastically above her value, 1.7kt can't actually harm her shield but he scales higher atm so he should be able to with effort). Again assuming it isn't magic based tho.
By strong, I mean "not fodder". Frieren used it on Denken, Solitar, and herself, for example, so by strong it moreso means those who can actually be a threat.
Frieren spams the shit out of Zoltraak, it's her main attack and I'm pretty sure her lead always (as in of the dozens of times I can think of, she's always lead with it). Unless they can survive layered duraneg (Zoltraak is layered, forget how many but it's at least 1), and do so while she zips around in the air spamming it if need be....
well, it's explosions created from magic? I'm not sure on the technicality of that, it's just his personal magic type is explosions. So, eh. And I'd say going by your words if we're considering the explosions themselves to not be magic, Exolomb-Bomb would blow those shields wide open, considering they get amped to 31 Kilotons, which is far higher than what Frieren has. Still, Explomb-Bomb explosions are timed, and she can just get out of the range before they go off.
Ah. Would she use these lightning spells more than her Zoltraak spells in this case? Or is she still more privy to the latter?
Explosion magic would still count as magic, if that's what's going on with him. Fire magic, wind magic, lightning magic, and obviously magic based explosions, etc, have all counted and get nulled by defensive magic.
Maybe, she can fly and has hefty range, and doesn't give a damn about sniping (She's even got her apprentice to kill off dangerous foes twice by doing exactly that from km's away).
She spams the **** out of Zoltraak, it's always being used first.
I do want to preface this with, Frieren almost certainly has a few uncalced feats I've been eyeing that'd geT higher, though that's for the future not now.
Probably work just fine, Frieren herself also has gravity magic, should probably calc the LS on it actually given she uses it when pushed into a corner to cripple and incap her foe so they can't move.
The way Dot's explosion magic works is by simple creating those explosions in the air en mass, or firing them from his wand, or from sigils with Explomb-Bomb. So I guess that means the explosions themselves are magical.
Better safe than sorry
Yeah, that all makes sense. So I'd say Dot is cooked in this case. He doesn't have the kit or agility to avoid all of this.
Mmm, yeah, it would be boring I suppose. It would devolve into skill slop and hax arguments. Though how powerful do you suppose the verse could get up to?
So gravity manipulation would work on the spell? Would have expected them to pierce through. Lance uses it to crush stuff normally, or halt incoming attacks, so maybe it would be an interesting clash. But if Frieren doesn't have any LS on the level of Class T, she might be cooked. Especially if Lance brings out his Secondth, which amps his gravity by 10x.
For pure necromancy, there's this character called Necromace, he looks like a rotting corpse. But the thing is with him is that he can only control corpses, and needed Innocent Zero to use Timez the Living Dead to summon Adam's restored corpse to control it. Edo tensei basically. And we don't really have any concrete scaling for Necromance, but he'd probably be High 6-C or whatever for being brought along.
Mash? Would be funny since they're both voiced by Chiaki Kobayashi.
Well the absolute lowest Mash scales to is 31 kilotons and he has a lot of skillslop stuff, so maybe it isn't meant to be
Weeell, Wizards in Mashke can completely negate spells weaker than them by powering up, but this seems to only be available for double line characters and up. Same with magic cushioning, where they can block fatal attacks even while tremendously near deaths door, though I doubt this qualifies. There are characters who can use telekinesis like a forcefield though, but this is only showcased by Divine Visionary level wizards.
7-B if you squint. Atm though I'm just looking at stuff deeper into 7-C.
Was more just saying she has it too. I'm unsure, nobody used gravity magic on it except in the anime.
Not Class T. I don't think anyway, that Plateau shit HAS to be above Class M, I wanna recalc that but atm nah.
High 6-C vs 7-C is lame, just turns into a one shot match so nvm.
Maybe, but the AP problem still. I don't think I can really get Stark above lower end 7-C. Unless we take the hype statements putting him > Eisen.
Maybe if I can cook something.
The same applies to Frieren, their dbz mana aura simply eats enemy magic if it isn't strong enough. Even stuff like cold or the aforementioned Zoltraak in an extreme case.
Zoltraak actively bypasses stuff like that.
If they can make a bubble shield, she might just assume Zoltraak shouldn't be bypassing it because every mage in the world born in like the past 80 years knows basic defensive magic which was designed to stop Zoltraak. Though she'd probably figure out it can't if she analyzes it, it could still maybe stop the initial onslaught due to the subjective reality slop.
Well... I guess Frieren would just be an exceptional Easton student? Can't fight Abyss or Abel, not even as strong as proper Visionary candidates.
Ah, I'm guessing that anime only thing wouldn't be allowed to be used?
I'd say it would kill or incapacitate her fast, since Lance always goes for crushing the opponent as his first move.
So I don't think she's coming anywhere close, a shame.
Yeah, Mashle doesn't really work on such a level unfortunately. Its all about destruction hax here.
Yeah, no salvaging that.
Then cook, maybe it can actually be possible
Yeah, Mashle operates on a similar principle, where being stronger allows you to resist magic, such as auras that make you feel like you've just been killed, or freezing temperatures that instantly freeze beings solid, or time magic.
Mmm, guess that's out of the picture then.
maybe, telekinesis in Mashle can be shaped into sharp slashes, and as flat shields to halt incoming attacks, so maybe it can. Unfortunately however, this telekinesis stuff is only showcased in wizards who scale to 6-B and beyond, so it wouldn't matter regardless since it would come down to who one shots who.
