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I don't think we need to worry about that since Devoth is the first being in all creation and the casual creator of all the countless universes.
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Doom Discussion (Spoilers Ahead)
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You would need to prove that he scales to it physically though as creating universes no longer automatically scales to physicals
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Yeah, Devoth can use his power to enchance his physical stats like he did with the Armored Barons.
"The Armored Barons are grafted with the technology of Immora. Just outside the city gates they patrol with morning star gauntlets cursed by the Dark Lord himself; one devastating strike obliterates both body and soul. Even the Maykrs fear these creations of demon and machine, for their carnage is both relentless and unquenchable."
Yeah, Devoth can use his power to enchance his physical stats like he did with the Armored Barons.
"The Armored Barons are grafted with the technology of Immora. Just outside the city gates they patrol with morning star gauntlets cursed by the Dark Lord himself; one devastating strike obliterates both body and soul. Even the Maykrs fear these creations of demon and machine, for their carnage is both relentless and unquenchable."
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Proof that that's 2-B though?
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According to the Creation feats page, a character's AP scales if their Creation is connected to their other abilities/attacks. Devoth uses the same energy source for his physical, energy, and cursed attacks against Doom Slayer.
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Using the same energy source is not the same as their abilities all scaling to each other. There wa literally a crt about this a few weeks ago
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Using the same power you used for creation to amp things physically should be all you need, no?
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No, you need feats of physical destruction on par with feats of creation now
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This new standard been officialized?
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Other Primeval-level beings existing in the same dimension would destroy the dimension because of their level of power.
Also, doesn't that standard kinda go against occam's razor?
Also, doesn't that standard kinda go against occam's razor?
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Yup, it was officialized a few weeks ago
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Already brought that up, the stabilization feats revisions kinda nipped feats like that in the bud so they arent really viable for scaling physically either
Not really? If a character has no physical feats on par with creating feats then why would they be assumed to scale to the creation feats physically?
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Have the new standards have been published on the wiki? I can't seem to find it.
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I found that, but they didn't elaborate on Tier 2 level creation feats.
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It applies to all creation feats
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Not according to the thread, no
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Hey man you're free to ask them but I'm just telling you now that it applies to tier 2 stuff, I should know because bayonetta's tier 2 feats were brought up with this discussion
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Firestorm did already
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"Stabilization Feats - This is a type of feat where a character's existence, energy, presence, or any given factor from them sustains a structure on any given scale. And through their sustenance, their statistics are subsequently tiered to being at the level of power that is relative to the given scale of the structure they sustain."
But Primevals don't sustain the realms.
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Yeah, also that. They just watch over realms and if there's more than 1 of them in a single realm, it gets destroyed.
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Thats a destabilization feat
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Was the davoth that slayer killed weakened?
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He was only weakened when The Father ripped Devoth's life sphere from his chest, removing his physical form. If it came to pass that the Dark Lord was ever reincarnated back into physical form, only another Primeval, or something more powerful, could slay him.
He was only weakened when The Father ripped Devoth's life sphere from his chest, removing his physical form. If it came to pass that the Dark Lord was ever reincarnated back into physical form, only another Primeval, or something more powerful, could slay him.
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...how exactly? They're physically destroying it because it can't handle more than 1 being of that level of power.
Also yeah the weakened thing has been brought up numerous times in the thread already
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Exactly, thats the definition of destabilization
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How are they "destabilizing" it though? How exactly is passively destroying something "destabilizing" it?
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Because it is stabilized by the presence of one and destabilized by the presence of two. Theyre not actively physically destroying it therefore it would fall under a destabilization feat by our new standards
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A Primeval's existence doesn't stabilize anything. Also, looking at the requirements on the Stabilization Feats page, I don't see how the Primeval situation applies.
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They do not stabilize their realms. They just watch over said realms. The realms can exist without them.
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When Primevals die, their realms just basically become sealed off from the rest. Residents can't leave the realm, the realm can't really interact with other realms, etc
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I don't think a Primeval's "death" is involved in sealing away a realm.
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Not literally sealed, it's just weird how it happens. They're just "cut off" like how the demons burnt up after Davoth died, yet Hell still supposedly exists.
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He said: As all things were made by my hand, so shall they be unmade. Starting with you.
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Hes obviously gonna kill the multiverse 1 person at a time
