Does this qualify for Void manipulation or Existence erasure?

[coolgohan09]

So the Oni have the power to erase all life and erase creation
their power of destruction is the opposite power of the dragon's creation which has the power to create something out of nothing,
can this qualify for void manipulation?

 

[Digital_Franz]

erase all life

I don't see erase here, just wipe out.

erase creation

I don't see erase here too, just destroy.

can this qualify for void manipulation?

No. For existence erasure you need the term erase and for Void Manipulation you need something like : "revert everything back to nothingness".

 

[Lloydblitzed]

No. For existence erasure you need the term erase and for Void Manipulation you need something like : "revert everything back to nothingness".

Shouldn't this qualify

Conversion to Existence: The inverse of Existence Erasure. The user may be able to move something from a state of nonexistence to existence, such as reversing the effects of the aforementioned power through their innate control over nothingness

 

[coolgohan09]

i edited the erase life part

I don't see erase here, just wipe out.

 

[coolgohan09]

also read the omega's page for context about oni's power
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Omega_(Ninjago)

 

[Digital_Franz]

Shouldn't this qualify

Not really, no. Just a creation feat.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Not really, no. Just a creation feat.

Explain why it doesn't fit the definition ?

 

[Digital_Franz]

Explain why it doesn't fit the definition ?

It is said that it creates from nothing, so ultimately it is a power of creation and this nothing is just to say that it does not need materials.

Conversion to Existence is not a power that creates, but that changes the nature of a thing. It takes something that was just non-existent and makes it exist. Here is an example.

i edited the erase life part

So wipe out is alternatively erase. Existence Erasure seems fine.

 

[coolgohan09]

It is said that it creates from nothing, so ultimately it is a power of creation and this nothing is just to say that it does not need materials.

Conversion to Existence is not a power that creates, but that changes the nature of a thing. It takes something that was just non-existent and makes it exist. Here is an example.



So wipe out is alternatively erase. Existence Erasure seems fine.

is this just nep or something related to ne

 

[Digital_Franz]

is this just nep or something related to ne

Something related to NEP. Conversion to Existence is basically "removing" NEP.

 

[coolgohan09]

Something related to NEP. Conversion to Existence is basically "removing" NEP.

Okay!, btw not related but if the Oni are able to erase everything in Ninjago which includes an erased timeline that is in a hyper-timeline, could this be nep for history and space-time , link is here explaining how the timelines work

 

[Digital_Franz]

Okay!, btw not related but if the Oni are able to erase everything in Ninjago which includes an erased timeline that is in a hyper-timeline, could this be nep for history and space-time

No. The erased timeline still exists in the hypertimeline, so no, erasing it doesn't give anything.

 

[Johner2133451]

It is said that it creates from nothing, so ultimately it is a power of creation and this nothing is just to say that it does not need materials.

Conversion to Existence is not a power that creates, but that changes the nature of a thing. It takes something that was just non-existent and makes it exist. Here is an example.



So wipe out is alternatively erase. Existence Erasure seems fine.

If the power of destruction is the opposite of Creation and it can do EE, shouldn't void manip qualify since it's the inverse of EE

 

[Digital_Franz]

If the power of destruction is the opposite of Creation and it can do EE, shouldn't void manip qualify since it's the inverse of EE

No. It isn't because it's the opposite of creation that it would be Void Manipulation. Void Manipulation (conversion to existence) involves NEP.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

No. The erased timeline still exists in the hypertimeline, so no, erasing it doesn't give anything.

That logic completly goes against NEP

 

[Digital_Franz]

That logic completly goes against NEP

No. That's literally the thing of hypertimelines. Erased timelines are just "snapshots" on the other time dimension.

 

[coolgohan09]

No. That's literally the thing of hypertimelines. Erased timelines are just "snapshots" on the other time dimension.

Oh so the erased timeline is just a normal alternate timeline or something, but in the show, all past events got undone from that timeline, I mean even the creator said its a timeline that had been undone

 

[Vietthai96]

Converse to Existence is you convert/reverse something from nonexistent state back to existent state, create thing out of nowhere is just creation

Opposite of Existence Erasure, mean nothing, unless more contexts is provided, which again depend on contexts which can land in a lot of different abilities, it could be Void hax of course, one of possibilities, it could again is just creation, could even be life manipulation, or other ability.

Also what?, Opposite of Destruction?, Destruction can mean manything, not just EE

 

[coolgohan09]

Converse to Existence is you convert/reverse something from nonexistent state back to existent state, create thing out of nowhere is just creation

Opposite of Existence Erasure, mean nothing, unless more contexts is provided, which again depend on contexts which can land in a lot of different abilities, it could be Void hax of course, one of possibilities, it could again is just creation, could even be life manipulation, or other ability.

Also what?, Opposite of Destruction?, Destruction can mean manything, not just EE

In ninjago Destruction is the power to erase, like in the scan which is expired it said it has the power to erase life.
Creation in Ninjago can create an entire pocket reality(https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sensei_Wu)

 

[Vietthai96]

Like i said, opposite of EE, could be anything though

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

No.