Doctor Manhattan VS Alien X (GRACE)

[Purgy]

Manhattan's deconstruction seems to be gesture based, which is also the case seemingly for Alien X's telekinesis and mind control, if Alien X starts with mind control then it's probably incon, but if he starts with telekinesis then he loses, as Manhattan has far greater lifting strength.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Threatening with EE as their first move should logically make EE their first move.

Has Alien X even used EE as a first move in the show itself?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Threatening with EE as their first move should logically make EE their first move.

1) Because he violated a treaty they had

2) that's bellicus and serena, not ben

 

[Spectral69420]

Has Alien X even used EE as a first move in the show itself?

No, but that doesn't mean it would not be. Belicus and Serena outclass everyone in the verse which is why it never warranta them to use EE but since Manhattan can harm them I don't see why it wouldn't be the first move.

 

[Spectral69420]

2) that's bellicus and serena, not ben

All three personalities are part of Alien X, they won't allow Ben to use TK or mind control

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

No, but that doesn't mean it would not be. Belicus and Serena outclass everyone in the verse which is why it never warranta them to use EE but since Manhattan can harm them I don't see why it wouldn't be the first move.

By that logic they are completely ****** the second Manhattan does anything with his hax or 6D AP.

Also you are arguing from our point of view as spectators who know everything but as the rules of the match dictate, they are in character and so far they have never EE'd someone as their fist move in character (nor have they ever EE'd anyone in a fight)

 

[Purgy]

Has Alien X even used EE as a first move in the show itself?

He's never even used EE period, let alone as a first move.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

All three personalities are part of Alien X, they won't allow Ben to use TK or mind control

If they won't allow him to do that he is just a sitting duck for Manhattan to ****.

 

[Spectral69420]

By that logic they are completely ****** the second Manhattan does anything with his hax or 6D AP.

Alien X also has 6D AP.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Alien X also has 6D AP.

He has wot? Since when?

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

5-D, possibly 6-D

He has wot? Since when?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

5-D, possibly 6-D

thanks

 

[Greatsage13th]

Hmmm

 

[Omegabronic]

The 5 votes for AX should be nuked until someone can prove that AX starts with EE or if AX has another viable wincon and can pull it off before Manhattan

I already did tho, belicus and serena want to defeat a possible threat, fot much less celestial sapiens would erase other people as shown in clops above

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

No, but that doesn't mean it would not be. Belicus and Serena outclass everyone in the verse which is why it never warranta them to use EE but since Manhattan can harm them I don't see why it wouldn't be the first move.

Then why was it not used against Galactic Gladiator?

Plus how would Alien X know that Dr Manhattan is that huge of a threat to him.

 

[Spectral69420]

Then why was it not used against Galactic Gladiator?

Celestialsapiens resist EE.

 

[Aachintya31]

Then why was it not used against Galactic Gladiator

It was supposed to be a hand to hand combat.

Plus how would Alien X know that Dr Manhattan is that huge of a threat to him

Maybe Cosmic awareness with nigh omniscience

 

[Spectral69420]

Yeah as mentioned above it was a trial by combat not a fight to the dearh

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Maybe Cosmic awareness with nigh omniscience

Nigh Omniscience isn't applicable against characters from outside your verse.

Celestialsapiens resist EE.

According to where? Neither Alien X or Galactic Gladiator's profile mention it.

 

[Spectral69420]

According to where? Neither Alien X or Galactic Gladiator's profile mention it.

The Annihalargh has EE and AX resisted it.

 

[Aachintya31]

The Annihalargh has EE and AX resisted it.

Not accepted. Leave it.

 

[DemonicDude]

Post comic scan of Dr. Manchester using EE ?

 

[DemonicDude]

The Annihalargh has EE and AX resisted it.

Well then mention it on his profile.

 

[DemonicDude]

All video clips on Alien X profile page leads to YouTube and therefore those are Copyright deleted.
So the profile needs new clips, I'll add those but the page is locked.
Sooooooo......I guess y'all gotta debate without scans then.

I mean....debating "without scans" shouldn't really be that big of a deal cause well we all trust each other's messages here and take word for word so no big deal.

 

[Aachintya31]

also no one said he has EE, its deconstruction

Alien X has Mid-High Regeneration, so its not gonna work.

 

[Samael_010]

Also about the aca4 stuff
It seems like he have experience with Mr mzxpltik who got aca4 its mentioned in the profile

Mr mzxpltk even afraid of him and said he would notice his shenanigan, it back to the first argument, what stoppin him from knowing he would be dead

I vote incon btw if alien x actually start with ee manhattan across every timeline

 

[Samael_010]

nigh omnscience doesnt work in vs matches

Why tho? His nigh-omnisuiciennt is not just about knownnledge

 

[Aachintya31]

what the hell

we dont even see him regenerating from that

anyway "The ability to regenerate from being blown/cut to pieces, brain included, or from a small piece of the user's body, such as a finger, or the heart."

dr manhattan exploded the guy completely

Mid-High: The ability to regenerate from having all biology completely incinerated. This includes being reduced to ash, dust, smoke, vapor, or plasma.
Basically seeing at Manhattan's deconstruction ,Alien X can very likely regenerate from it.

 

[Robo432343]

Mid-High: The ability to regenerate from having all biology completely incinerated. This includes being reduced to ash, dust, smoke, vapor, or plasma.
Basically seeing at Manhattan's deconstruction ,Alien X can very likely regenerate from it.

bro i got confused between high mid and mid high lool

 

[Samael_010]

Well aint his decon come from matter mannipulation?

 

[Aachintya31]

Anyways Voting Alien X for the Following Reasons ;

• He can't tank Alien X punches
• His Deconstruction Scan on profile can easily be nullified with Mid High Regeneration
• He can't resist the Mind Hax
• Additionally ,He has possibly Immeasurable LS by scaling to Hal Jordan. The problem is that Hal Jordan himself is Multi-Stellar only. So he can't resist AX Telekinesis as well.

 

[Samael_010]

has manhattan matter ****** anyone with mid high regen??

Sub atomic level

 

[DemonicDude]

tf??? its manhattan lol

Eh no

 

[Aachintya31]

Sub atomic level

His First move which is deconstruction only turns people to vapour/liquid as seen on the scan on his profile.

 

[Spectral69420]

Cab deconstruction affect the PD?

 

[Samael_010]

Alr back to the first argument then, why wouldnt manhattan nigh-omniscient work? Its not like alien X nigh-omnisicient who only limited to knownledge.That like restricting his ability espcially after the fact that he have experience with aca4 being

And does alien x actually start with deleting dr manhattan across all timeline? his knownledge is restricted to his verse why would he know that dr manhattan got aca3 (just reminder really this is alien x vs infinite dr manhattan)

 

[Samael_010]

he doesn't need to know manhattan has aca 3???

Ye but does he actually start with deleting him across all timeline? Either way its alr incon

bro in a vs match, omniscience just cant work. its the rules

Where it said that bruh, this is legit ability restriction

 

[Reiner04]

Then why was it not used against Galactic Gladiator?

Plus how would Alien X know that Dr Manhattan is that huge of a threat to him.

It was reframed hand to hand combat not had battle, Alien X has already won against Doom guy due to his First move being EE because of serena hello is being involved with ben, not just ben alone. CPs character nature is to blink off anyone they had find a threat said by Kevin and was about to happen with paradox. He also had a incon with ultron due to his starting move being EE.

 

[ShionAH]

He also had a incon with ultron due to his starting move being EE.

No.

 

[EnnardTrap1987]

alright so doesnt Alien X just win with EE? What does manhattan even start with

Manhattan starts with deconstruction