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Same can be said for Alien X lol
Alien X spacetime hax goes beyond to chrononavogator, that's why he can see all of Spacetime at the same time.
And no we still use it in vsdebates
We don't, unless there is a evidence that his nigh omniscience is based of SMTH that can consistently apply to any setting in the given range.
There is also "Nigh Omniscience", for which a character or entity knows almost everything about their fictional continuity, with the exception of a small amount of information

The user's knowledge is limited in certain ways/areas: they may be limited to certain areas or subjects of knowledge or lack knowledge about certain areas.

His nigh-omnisicent is not just about knownledge though
Then?

And why would alien x know manhattan got aca3
He can see all of spacetime, and all of Manhattan are his enemies, so he'll kill them all.
 
Alien X spacetime hax goes beyond to chrononavogator, that's why he can see all of Spacetime at the same time.

We don't, unless there is a evidence that his nigh omniscience is based of SMTH that can consistently apply to any setting in the given range.





Then?


He can see all of spacetime, and all of Manhattan are his enemies, so he'll kill them all.
Bro. Manhattan knows the future, timelines and even timelines that dont exist. Thats just Alien X intelligence but even better
 
Bro. Manhattan knows the future, timelines and even timelines that dont exist. Thats just Alien X intelligence but even better
I mean... Aside from knowing the future, everything else is unimportant here as Alien X is not someone who has aca 3 but manhattan.

But Alien X has Acausality type 4, so precog has no use on him.
 
I mean... Aside from knowing the future, everything else is unimportant here as Alien X is not someone who has aca 3 but manhattan.

But Alien X has Acausality type 4, so precog has no use on him.
Precog wont work on Alien X /=/ It wont show Manhattan that he will die

Both EE and die, Incon FRA
 
ye its in the profile
Looked at but it doesn't state anything about him being capable of seeing his own future. Also it's not passive either but takes time and he have to "look" specifically in the future. So even before he try to know what has happened to him, he would be gone before knowing anything.
 
Precog wont work on Alien X /=/ It wont show Manhattan that he will die

Both EE and die, Incon FRA
it won't show since for him to see alien x killing him he would need to see alien x, if he tries to precog alien x he will not see anything related to him at all, the result of his actions, aka manhatan's death, will not appear, since alien x would not appear in the precog at all, that is how type 4 works
 
Looked at but it doesn't state anything about him being capable of seeing his own future. Also it's not passive either but takes time and he have to "look" specifically in the future. So even before he try to know what has happened to him, he would be gone before knowing anything.

To be fair his nigh-omniscient alr cover that though
Also he did see his future that scan cover the EE stuff
 
it won't show since for him to see alien x killing him he would need to see alien x, if he tries to precog alien x he will not see anything related to him at all, the result of his actions, aka manhatan's death, will not appear, since alien x would not appear in the precog at all, that is how type 4 works
Alirn X wouldnt appear since he is independent of time and space. That doesnt mean Manhattan wont see his own erasure from an unknown entity
 
Alirn X wouldnt appear since he is independent of time and space. That doesnt mean Manhattan wont see his own erasure from an unknown entity
that is exactly what it means, if he can't see alien x then he also can't see the results of his actions, if he cause see the "cause"(alien x himself) then he logically also will not see the "effect"(him being erased) since effects depends on causes, if he can't see the first, he also can't see the second
 
that is exactly what it means, if he can't see alien x then he also can't see the results of his actions, if he cause see the "cause"(alien x himself) then he logically also will not see the "effect"(him being erased) since effects depends on causes, if he can't see the first, he also can't see the second
No, Manhattan will just see he was erased in the future no other information he will feel threatened and EE AX.
 
No, Manhattan will just see he was erased in the future no other information he will feel threatened and EE AX.
he will not see that he was erased, since being erased is an effect of the causes of alien x, and since alien x is acausal type 4, manhatan will not see neither the cause or the effect since both of those are of a differenct system altogether, so he will not see at all, again, this is how acausality type 4 works
 
What makes EE Alien X's starting move exactly? From what I remember, his first moves were either telekinesis or mind control, and he's never actually even used EE.
 
What makes EE Alien X's starting move exactly? From what I remember, his first moves were either telekinesis or mind control, and he's never actually even used EE.
ben was friends with the guys, so he wouldn't EE them, if belicus and serena already decided to defeat the oponent, they would act like any celestial sapien would, and just EE the oponent
 
ben was friends with the guys, so he wouldn't EE them, if belicus and serena already decided to defeat the oponent, they would act like any celestial sapien would, and just EE the oponent
Baseless, we've seen Alien X in numerous combat scenarios and he's never once EE'd anyone.

His first moves are TK and mind manip, anything else is blatant wank and not at all what he does in canon.
 
the only think i can see why they say alien x starts with ee is because kevin stated, "they'd blink and we'd all be gone"

also i remember serena and belicius start with fire hax once....
This is the statement


It's got nothing to do with what a Celestapian does in character whatsoever, Kevin is just saying it's within their capability to EE someone.
 
The EE comes from both Kevin who said "They blink and we'd be gone" and Servantis who said that if Ben wanted to he could erase everything from existence with Alien X.

Due to the fact that the EE comes from 2 statements, its not ic for Alien X to start it off

There is an argument that can be made where the 2 times we see Alien X in combat was where in the first time its just a trial of combat and not to the death and the second time its against his mind controlled friends. With that in mind, one may argue that Ben CAN start off with EE should he choose to but that would have to be against an opponent that is threatening to destroy the entire universe.

With no prior knowledge I doubt that
 
Regarding my vote, if Doctor Manhattan has a move where he can take down Alien X before he gets mind ****** then I'm voting Manhattan if not then put my vote for Alien X
 
Baseless, we've seen Alien X in numerous combat scenarios and he's never once EE'd anyone.

His first moves are TK and mind manip, anything else is blatant wank and not at all what he does in canon.
It is not ben here, it is also belicus and serena, if they decide to defeat the enemy, they will do like any celestial sapien does, aka erasure, all the situations we saw alien x fighting was when only ben was controlling, just because he convinced the other two to leave him be and let then discuss since they don't care about fighting, but here due to SBA they want to defeat the enemy, so they would in the same veins any celestialsapien does

This is the statement


It's got nothing to do with what a Celestapian does in character whatsoever, Kevin is just saying it's within their capability to EE someone.

He is saying to not make noise since if they got as much as disturbed even a little, they will erase them
 
The EE comes from both Kevin who said "They blink and we'd be gone" and Servantis who said that if Ben wanted to he could erase everything from existence with Alien X.
the mf said that he COULD erase everything from existence, it doesn't mean he will do that as his first move immediately. But he CAN do it if he wanted to
 
It is not ben here, it is also belicus and serena, if they decide to defeat the enemy, they will do like any celestial sapien does, aka erasure, all the situations we saw alien x fighting was when only ben was controlling, just because he convinced the other two to leave him be and let then discuss since they don't care about fighting, but here due to SBA they want to defeat the enemy, so they would in the same veins any celestialsapien does
it doesn't have to be erasure, it can be fire hax as serena and bellicus used, we don't know
 
Are people forgetting that Belicus and Serena threatened to EE Paradox? Paradox isn't a threat to them and they still wanted to erase him so I don't see why they won't erase a threat immediately. Also Alien X should resist EE since he resisted the Annihilargh
 
Are people forgetting that Belicus and Serena threatened to EE Paradox? Paradox isn't a threat to them and they still wanted to erase him so I don't see why they won't erase a threat immediately. Also Alien X should resist EE since he resisted the Annihilargh
To be fair they were probably willing to EE him entirely because, as the scene said, he was violating their agreement to stay 500 light years away from each other.
 
The 5 votes for AX should be nuked until someone can prove that AX starts with EE or if AX has another viable wincon and can pull it off before Manhattan
 
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