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A discussion came up on a thread and I’m curious. Do you need ap and lifting strength to choke something out, I always assumed it would be purely lifting strength. Now I don’t mean like damaging the windpipe by crushing it. I mean like purely holding the neck in the way that prevents the windpipe from opening and closing to actually get air. Or holding the chest to where it can’t expand for the lunges. I was told you need to compress the opponent so that would be ap, but I find that weird since as far as I can tell creatures much weaker than others in real life can strangle creatures and I more thought it would need to be the strength of your muscles to push back against being closed versus it being the grab needs to overpower the durability.