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"Do You Like Hurting Other People?" (Jacket vs Composite Human) (2-1-0)

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50 Blessings has been having some trouble with Composite Human, so they manipulate Jacket into killing him for them

Rules:
  • Speed Unequal (Can equalize it if needed)
  • Jacket has full prior knowledge on CH, including his equipment & car
  • CH knows Jacket's appearance & his background as a soldier but nothing else, not even a name. He also knows what type of car Jacket is driving & that Jacket is likely armed but doesn't know exactly what he's armed with
  • FIght takes place in 1989 Miami Florida
  • They start on opposite ends of the city (About 20 miles apart) and neither knows where the other one starts
    • This means that they'll both have to hunt for each other throughout the city
  • Both are naturally bloodlusted iirc so no Social Influencing beams or anything like that. They're both fighting until someone is dead
CH's Equipment:
Jacket's Equipment:
Who Wins?

A Traumatized Veteran Who Hates Soviets: 2 (Primal, Pyro9278)
The Best Man To Ever Walk The Earth: 1 (MaybeWantsToEdit)
CH vs Ozymandias Moment: 0 ()
 
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I figured I should start some discussion on this since I have pretty good knowledge on each character

CH's Advantages:
Far Better Hand-To-Hand Combat Skill
Better Marksmanship
Far Smarter
FAR More Experience
Is A Far Better Tracker & Driver
Kind Of An AP Advantage? (CH has like multiple different AP values & some are below Jacket's skull crushing & some are above so idk if CH really has an advantage or not here)
Better Travel Speed
Superior Stamina
Greater Knowledge Of The City
Knows That Jacket Is A Soldier & Armed
=Ruthlessness
=Weaponry

Jacket's Advantages:
Kind Of An AP Advantage? (See Above)
Monsterous LS Advantage
Definetly Comparable If Not Better In Battle IQ
Better Reaction & Combat Speed
Statistics Amplifying Masks
Superior Stealth
  • Plus A Mask That Helps Improve His Stealth
Superior Senses & Awareness
Full Prior Knowledge On CH
Extremely Difficult To Track Down
CH Doesn't Have Much Prior Knowledge On Him
=Ruthlessness
=Weaponry
 
Probably CH. Both are close in reactions and both can easily shoot each other down. However, CH has sort of crazy marksman abilities (that one guy in the shooting Olympics who became a meme). CH also has enhanced senses and is a master detective, so chances are they'll find Jacket before Jacket finds them, and shoots first.
 
Probably CH. Both are close in reactions and both can easily shoot each other down. However, CH has sort of crazy marksman abilities (that one guy in the shooting Olympics who became a meme). CH also has enhanced senses and is a master detective, so chances are they'll find Jacket before Jacket finds them, and shoots first.
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Base Jacket seems to surpass the CH in speed, although the difference isn't significant, it still gives him an advantage. He also gains an increase in movement speed with Brandon, so if the CH doesn't start by ambushing him, Jacket could cause problems for him in a direct encounter
 
So I'm going to give my personal thoughts on this, and I think I might actually vote Jacket here with insane difficulty

Firstly, CH tracking down Jacket is honestly a 50/50 for me. Jacket was able to slaughter entire buildings of people (often with extremely loud guns) and escape without ever getting tracked down by the police and his murders going completely unsolved, even in the level where police actively raided the building with him in it. CH is an excellent tracker, but Jacket is just weirdly good at getting away with his hits with no suspection from the police. Granted, Jacket has never shown any actual tracking abilities (he's given the addresses to almost every map in the game) so I think CH would probably find Jacket first before Jacket found them simply because of CH being a far better tracker than Jacket.

CH's only wincon here though would be to get the jump on Jacket, since I think in either a gunfight or a fist fight Jacket probably wins.

Firstly, Jacket is a monster in LS. Even using CH's higher-ends, Jacket could still ragdoll them. And Jacket is definetly one to use LS in his fights, so he'll probably be trying to rip CH apart. Another thing is that although CH is definetly more skilled, Jacket isn't bad either. He can kill a roomful of men with his bare hands pretty much instantly & is excellent at using melee weapons. He's also a veteran & has hand-to-hand training. The big problem here is that CH doesn't have prior knowledge. They know that this guy's former military & has a gun, but not that he's also a freak of nature in strength. This means that by the time CH realizes that this guy is superhumanly strong, Jacket will probably have ahold of them and will just rip their arms off and there would be nothing CH could really do. Countering this much of a LS difference isn't something CH can just skill their way out of. And keep in mind that Jacket can enhance their strength with masks, so they could just grow this difference even more if they wanted

In a gunfight, I'd agree that CH has better marksmanship. If you told CH & Jacket to hit a very specific spot on a target, CH would be able to hit it more accurately than Jacket. But in actual combat with a gun, Jacket definetly takes it. This guy has gunned down countless amounts of armed soldiers, mafia bosses, SWAT units, gangs, police officers, and has pretty much John Wicked entire buildings of highly skilled & trained people with immense combat experience no problem, not ever getting shot, stabbed, or punched once, and often using worse weaponry than his opponents in sub-par spaces, such as when he went against the police chief in the police station level. Afaik, no human IRL has shown this level of gunmanship where they could gun down entire squadrens of highly elite soldiers, cops, ect, entirely solo. It's just too much trained & intelligent people for a single person to realistically win against, but Jacket does it weekly with no issue. And that's not including the various masks that help Jacket in gunfights, such as:
All of this would only put CH at an even bigger disadvantage, so CH will be likely outskilled, outspeed, will likely loose Jacket in the middle of combat (seeing how good Jacket is at stealth like holy hell + the mask that makes him harder to spot), and there's the fact that Jacket could take a vital shot or 2 with his masks but a single good headshot from Jacket can kill CH, which makes me really doubt if CH can kill Jacket here

Really, unless CH can get the jump on Jacket (which honestly idk if that can happen given his enhanced senses + masks that improve his already great senses) then I don't really see CH winning this. Unless they both find each other while in the middle of driving & get into a car chase, which CH skillstomps in, but I highly doubt that's going to happen

So I'll be voting Jacket here
 
CH's only wincon here though would be to get the jump on Jacket, since I think in either a gunfight or a fist fight Jacket probably wins.
I don't really think a fistfight is happening. What I think would happen is both drive their cars to get around the city to find each other, and once the other spots the other, it's a quickdraw. I don't see why either would walk around a city with no protection instead of drive a car which is faster and protects them.
In a gunfight, I'd agree that CH has better marksmanship. If you told CH & Jacket to hit a very specific spot on a target, CH would be able to hit it more accurately than Jacket. But in actual combat with a gun, Jacket definetly takes it. This guy has gunned down countless amounts of armed soldiers, mafia bosses, SWAT units, gangs, police officers, and has pretty much John Wicked entire buildings of highly skilled & trained people with immense combat experience no problem
I don't really think that amounts to aiming and gunmanship and more just having general combat skill and being more athletic. CH would just do a drive by and shoot a couple of accurate rounds before speeding off
Both can get gunned down in a few rounds so I don't think the first would be useful in this interaction (and both have a "shitton of ammo" anyway)

The "far better" shot mask from what the wiki says, just seems to imply that it makes Jacket be able to land headshots all the time. Just essentially evens them both in skill.

CH has an AK-47. The mask that lets him tank at most 3 bullets will be borderline useless when the AK fires 10 bullets every second, and the shotgun is a shotgun

The speed amp is only applied to travel speed. Though given both are trying to search each other, they'd use cars to get around a city. At least CH would. Wouldn't help in a gunfight either

CH's encyclopedic knowledge of just everything would make them a pseudo-Sherlock combined with their detective skills and would know where Jacket is before having to see him (he knows Jacket's exact car model and his occupation). Once CH sees the car they can just assume and guesstimate his height and fire an AK at the driver's seat
 
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