Dino Crisis revisions

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Cebalrai should have resistance to Cold since he can live in Space

The following characters should have Wall level+ AP since they can kill Dylan and Regina with ease

• Pteranodon
• Mosasaururs
• Algol
• Kornephoros
• Rigel
• Utahraptor
• Velociraptor
• Oviraptor

Also characters like Inostrancevia must be listed as At least Wall level+ due to only be slightly damaged with the Mine chain which is in this level.
Thoughts?

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Bump

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Well, according to DontTalkDT, surviving in space won't grant resistance to cold for a couple reasons.

 

[Antvasima]

Is there a calculation to justify the Wall level+ statistic to start with?

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Well, according to DontTalkDT, surviving in space won't grant resistance to cold for a couple reasons.

Son Goky has resistance to cold for the same reason

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Is here a calculation to justify the Wall level+ statistic to start with?

Yes

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That is probably fine then, with the exception of the cold resistance.

 

[Antoniofer]

Although, Regina being 9-B due surviving to dinos, and dinos being 9-B due damaging Regina is circular scaling.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

@Apex_PredatorX A lot of characters are probably getting resistance to extreme cold removed for similar reasons. The reason why it doesn't grant resistance to extreme cold is that ice manipulation and/or refrigerators have electromagnetic fields of energy being used to extract thermal energy and move them to other locations. Where as there isn't quite that in outer space. The only reason outer space is as cold as it is is due to the absence of an atmosphere or gas; there's nothing to extract the heat your body produces naturally. Which is different from cold air, which literally does absorb heat from your body and can cause freezing if it absorbs enough energy from you.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Although, Regina being 9-B due surviving to dinos, and dinos being 9-B due damaging Regina is circular scaling.

Not really if we take into account Dinos can kill a Inostrancevia.

 

[Antoniofer]

And does they do that? And even if they did, killing an inostrancevia requires an absurd amount of amunition from not heavy bullets or artillery, how much it take for a raptor to kill them, or if they do not attack the creature by attacking their bland abdomen, is unknown.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

And does they do that? And even if they did, killing an inostrancevia requires an absurd amount of amunition from not heavy bullets or artillery, how much it take for a raptor to kill them, or if they do not attack the creature by attacking their bland abdomen, is unknown.

An Ovi and a Raptor can turn upside down and hurt the Inostrancevias with one hit which equates with Chain mine hit that got calculated to 9-B+

 

[Antoniofer]

One does not need to have an AP equal to the chain mine turn upside down the creature, just a LS enough to push it.

Plus, no way the oviraptor scales to the inostrancevias when it can stand 2-3 shotgun's shot top.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

One does not need to have an AP equal to the chain mine turn upside down the creature, just a LS enough to push it.

Plus, no way the oviraptor scales to the inostrancevias when it can stand 2-3 shotgun's shot top.

This animal had an average mass of 300 kg (661.3 lbs) so I guess it is a lifting power upgrade.

So Ovi should just be wall level?

 

[Antoniofer]

Take into account that creature does not need a LS of 300 kg, gaining enough speed (in top of having enough strength) in a charge should be enough.

I doubt it would pass from 9-C. Btw, why do we use the side game from DC2 for scaling? Killing a T-Rex there is factible, but story wise characters are essentially helpless.

 

[Antvasima]

Antoniofer seems to make sense to me.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Take into account that creature does not need a LS of 300 kg, gaining enough speed (in top of having enough strength) in a charge should be enough.

I doubt it would pass from 9-C. Btw, why do we use the side game from DC2 for scaling? Killing a T-Rex there is factible, but story wise characters are essentially helpless.

Oviraptors don't need to gain speed in order to turn back the Inostrancevia, one hit without charge is enough.

Yeah, some dinos use accumulative damage to kill the rex same for some humans. But I'm not talking about the Rex, I'm talking about how the side game Inostrancevias are equal strong to the main game counterparts. They are same durable based on the fact humans and dinos first need to turn them into their belly inorder to really kill them.

 

[Antoniofer]

Needing only one hit to put upside down the inostrancevia is even more inconsistent considering that, as I said above, inostrancevia no sell to shotgun blasts whenever oviraptors can stand 3 shots at most from long distance, and oneshotted at point blank; we can't scale the oviraptors (and most likely any any other dino that is not big enough) to the inostrancevia.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Needing only one hit to put upside down the inostrancevia is even more inconsistent considering that, as I said above, inostrancevia no sell to shotgun blasts whenever oviraptors can stand 3 shots at most from long distance, and oneshotted at point blank; we can't scale the oviraptors (and most likely any any other dino that is not big enough) to the inostrancevia.

What about Raptors?

Also how is possible to 9-C Ovi to take down Regina with ease?

 

[Antoniofer]

Regina (and Dylan) by herself do not have do not have inhuman feats beyond of what their weapons can do, so taking her down is not really notable.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Regina (and Dylan) by herself do not have do not have inhuman feats beyond of what their weapons can do, so taking her down is not really notable.

Ok I see.

What about the Mosasaurus?

Regina uses a suit that is made of a resistant material that doubles the resistance of Regina, yet Mosasaurus can highly damage her with ease.

 

[Antoniofer]

Doesn't really says much if the armor does not have feats.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Doesn't really says much if the armor does not have feats.

Ok, I see.

What about the mutant dinos who are stronger than the normal Raptors?

 

[Antoniofer]

From DC3? No idea, do not known anything about that game.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

From DC3? No idea, do not known anything about that game.

I see...

What about At least Wall level+ Inostrancevia?

 

[Antoniofer]

At least in durability (wouldn't put "at least", depednign of how mcuh can endure the creature).

 

[Antvasima]

Antoniofer:

So what should we do here?

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

At least in durability (wouldn't put "at least", depednign of how mcuh can endure the creature).

The chain mine barely damages the inostrancevia. It is needed multiple shots to kill it.

 

[Antvasima]

So what should we do here?

@Antoniofer

 

[Antoniofer]

Welp, for instance, I wouldn't use the side games from scaling.

Neither I would scale the inostrancevia to any other dinasour that aren't the huge ones (although, I believe those have their own feats), raptor are stated to shatter bones (that is not really that superior of that real animals of big size can do), but character like Regina are clearly weaker than them (in DC1 the difference was considerable even with weapons, but as for DC2 they are more even, but only with weapons). The ones that scale from raptor are utahraptor, messosaurus and inostrancevia, possibly also the pteros. Ovis and compis doesn't not scale.

And do not known much about DC3, but I thing the only thing the other games have in common with this one is the name.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Your conclusions are probably fine.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Welp, for instance, I wouldn't use the side games from scaling.

Neither I would scale the inostrancevia to any other dinasour that aren't the huge ones (although, I believe those have their own feats), raptor are stated to shatter bones (that is not really that superior of that real animals of big size can do), but character like Regina are clearly weaker than them (in DC1 the difference was considerable even with weapons, but as for DC2 they are more even, but only with weapons). The ones that scale from raptor are utahraptor, messosaurus and inostrancevia, possibly also the pteros. Ovis and compis doesn't not scale.

And do not known much about DC3, but I thing the only thing the other games have in common with this one is the name.

So something like this:

Below Average - Compis

Street level - Oviraptor and Rigel

Wall level - Green type Velociraptor

At least Wall level - Red type Raptor, Utahraptor, Pteranodon, Mosasaururs, Algol and Kornephoros

At least Wall level+ - Inostrancevia, Regina, Dylan and Therizinosaurus (This one can one-shot Regina)

Small Building level - Trinity, Allosaurus, Plesiosaurus, Triceratops, Carnotaurus, Tyrannosaurus rex

Building level - Australis, Giganotosaurus, Brachiosaurus, Regulus, Miaplacidus, Cebalrai

 

[Antoniofer]

Can't talk about the DC3 creatures, but I believe is good how is written there; although as I say, ovis could be at most 9-C, are taking down grown human is something that can be performed by big dogs and such.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Can't talk about the DC3 creatures, but I believe is good how is written there; although as I say, ovis could be at most 9-C, are taking down grown human is something that can be performed by big dogs and such.

They are 9-C in the list I made though.

A pack of Compis Killed a Raptor in first game, now that I think.

 

[Antvasima]

What Antoniofer has accepted can probably be applied.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Done.

This can be closed now.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Okay