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>The problem is that you keep insisting totality of nights=Lui's durability. It is not. Most of his feats are REGEN feats, not durability ones. And he has shitload of mystery to draw on for that. And guess what? Only one who scales, being able to one shot it all at once, is Reinhard (with the honorary exception of Machina). Those jaws of darkness just contain a portion of Lui's mystery but the thing is... they are not separate from him at all. They are just extensions, and extensions can suffer damage via Bey's attacks the same way Lui himself can, due to the blood contract. Lui is darkness, thus jaws are just manifestations of darkness that were grafted unto his nature due to mankind's prejudice. Becoming Einherjar did shit to let him harm Methuselah, this status just gives him borderline limitless amount of souls to draw on, but his "maximum output" at once remains 8,000. This is lower than even Schreiber's, who couldn't hurt Methuselah or his constructs in any significant way.
This is just... not true.
Meth is the concept of darkness, the night. He embodies this concept completely. His durability would be equivalent to his darkness. The only "regen" feat he has is a plot point which contradicts other important plot points, that being that Wolfgang "interacting with Meth", despite the fact that Wolfgang can't affect someone conceptual like Ludwig - only Reinhard, Mercurius, and Machina can do that (Wilhelm can too with the Claduia blood connection).
His attacks are him segmenting a portion of his darkness - a specific amount of nights in the form of an offensive attack.
A portion =/= a whole.
This is explictliy stated in the novel - "each and every fang possess a hundred nights within them".
For further proof, Meth specifically segmented 500,000 layers of night so that Machina would have to go through each and every one of them to destroy all of them. If Ludwig's attacks were still "connected" to him like you say, then Machina erasing his layers of night would have affected Ludwig himself, which it didn't, because when Meth creates an attack, he takes a portion of the nights from his body, segments it from himself, and uses it as an attack.
Destroying his attacks doesn't affect Ludwig himself. Saying that Meth's attacks = durability is just inaccurate.
As the scans show that Wilhelm was able to destroy the Jaws of Darkness, yet admits that he can't do shit to Meth by himself, only Reinhard (and Machina) could. That scans prove my point.
And no one is saying that becoming an Einherjar allowed Wilhelm to let him effect Meth, the blood connection with Claudia did that, but becoming an Einherjar did allow him to fight indefinitely - with each punch, he released the entirety of his soul stock, which is substantially more powerful than his normal attacks, which allowed him to destroy the Jaws of Darkness.
Wolfgang might have a bigger soul stock than Wilhelm, but he doesn't release all of his souls in one attack - as that leaves a Die Ewigkeit user in a state no stronger than a normal human being.
That's why Wilhelm got such a power boost.
>My point is that the "conceptual poison" has nothing to do with Briah. That's it. Whether you consider conceptual manipulation or not... don't care. It certainly is Nasu style Conceptual Weapon fuckery though.
It's not specifically about a Briah, but the entirety of the Holy Relic.
It expliclty says that, "An injury inflicted by an Ahnenerbe was no ordinary wound" . The topic is about the Holy Relics. And how they create a poision that is explicitly effective agaisnt other Die Ewigkeit users.
Anyway, I am in class right now - can't respond for at least a few hours.
This is just... not true.
Meth is the concept of darkness, the night. He embodies this concept completely. His durability would be equivalent to his darkness. The only "regen" feat he has is a plot point which contradicts other important plot points, that being that Wolfgang "interacting with Meth", despite the fact that Wolfgang can't affect someone conceptual like Ludwig - only Reinhard, Mercurius, and Machina can do that (Wilhelm can too with the Claduia blood connection).
His attacks are him segmenting a portion of his darkness - a specific amount of nights in the form of an offensive attack.
A portion =/= a whole.
This is explictliy stated in the novel - "each and every fang possess a hundred nights within them".
For further proof, Meth specifically segmented 500,000 layers of night so that Machina would have to go through each and every one of them to destroy all of them. If Ludwig's attacks were still "connected" to him like you say, then Machina erasing his layers of night would have affected Ludwig himself, which it didn't, because when Meth creates an attack, he takes a portion of the nights from his body, segments it from himself, and uses it as an attack.
Destroying his attacks doesn't affect Ludwig himself. Saying that Meth's attacks = durability is just inaccurate.
As the scans show that Wilhelm was able to destroy the Jaws of Darkness, yet admits that he can't do shit to Meth by himself, only Reinhard (and Machina) could. That scans prove my point.
And no one is saying that becoming an Einherjar allowed Wilhelm to let him effect Meth, the blood connection with Claudia did that, but becoming an Einherjar did allow him to fight indefinitely - with each punch, he released the entirety of his soul stock, which is substantially more powerful than his normal attacks, which allowed him to destroy the Jaws of Darkness.
Wolfgang might have a bigger soul stock than Wilhelm, but he doesn't release all of his souls in one attack - as that leaves a Die Ewigkeit user in a state no stronger than a normal human being.
That's why Wilhelm got such a power boost.
>My point is that the "conceptual poison" has nothing to do with Briah. That's it. Whether you consider conceptual manipulation or not... don't care. It certainly is Nasu style Conceptual Weapon fuckery though.
It's not specifically about a Briah, but the entirety of the Holy Relic.
It expliclty says that, "An injury inflicted by an Ahnenerbe was no ordinary wound" . The topic is about the Holy Relics. And how they create a poision that is explicitly effective agaisnt other Die Ewigkeit users.
Anyway, I am in class right now - can't respond for at least a few hours.
