Demigra vs a bunch of pixels

[BlackPAIN99]

Demigra vs Chara





Both 2-B

Speed Equalized

 

[Darkmon_cns]

Dose chara resist mind manipulation?

 

[BlackPAIN99]

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[Darkmon_cns]

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Can chara resist Demigra's level of mind manipulation?

 

[BlackPAIN99]

According to Charas page, no he can not. However, I do not have much idea of Undertale so I hope that others comment here.

 

[BlackPAIN99]

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[Darkmon_cns]

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Then Demigra wins.

 

[BlackPAIN99]

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[DMB_1]

Demigra mindhaxes and calls it a day.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Yeah. Demigra FRA

3-0 Demigra

 

[Straika]

Demigra for reasons above

 

[Xantospoc]

Again, Demigra's Mind hax is too much

 

[Straika]

5-0 Demigra

 

[TheArsenal1212]

Demigra FRA

 

[InfiniteBlack123]

Demigra, he might even get an upgrade seeing as he also can summon Super Xeno Evil Dragons.

And is an official Kaioshin of time of his timeline.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

7-0 Demira

Just need 7 votes to win right. Someone should ask for this to be added

 

[Darkmon_cns]

Mind hax beats someone without mind hax yes. Really let's stop putting him against people without mind hax protection.

 

[BlackPAIN99]

Every star wars win, where mind hax was involved, should be removed.

homura has also won many matches through her mind hax.

and also martian manhunter.

mind hax seems legitimate when it comes to these verses so why not go for dragon ball as well?

 

[Darkmon_cns]

Every star wars win, where mind hax was involved, should be removed.
homura has also won many matches through her mind hax.

and also martian manhunter.

Clearly you misunderstood me. The same fight has basically happened before with paper Mario. There's no reason to have the same thread again and again. Never did I say anything should be removed. Only that making such matches again would be redundant.

 

[BlackPAIN99]

I just wanted to show how many people are actually regarded as incredibly strong just because of their mind hax.

Chara was not the best idea I admit.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

I just wanted to show how many people are actually regarded as incredibly strong just because of their mind hax.
Chara was not the best idea I admit.

That is completely unrelated to what I said. I ment that just making a bunch of repeat threats to fish for wins seems very redundant. If a character dose not have resistence to mind hax a thread agenst Demigra would clearly go this way unless they have a great speed advantage in which case they may get inconclusive if they have a way of beating him in 1 shot.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I'm waiting for Azzy to disprove this, but for now, I'll abstain.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

I'm waiting for Azzy to disprove this, but for now, I'll abstain.

Why? Dose chara have resistece to mind manipulation? She can't reset if shes his mind slave.

 

[BlackPAIN99]

As far as I know, there was a debate about mind hax here, right? it was not said that the victory with mind hax is accepted because it is a "normal" ability?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

When Demigra can affect concepts, then he wins undoubtedly. But until then...

 

[Darkmon_cns]

As far as I know, there was a debate about mind hax here, right? it was not said that the victory with mind hax is accepted because it is a "normal" ability?

........you have no idea... what I was trying to say at all? I was making a statement I was not disputing anything. There was no debate I was trying to tell you that well you kept bringing up meaningless stuff.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

When Demigra can affect concepts, then he wins undoubtedly. But until then...

If that grants pertection from mindmanplation why dose the page not say that?

 

[DMB_1]

When Demigra can affect concepts, then he wins undoubtedly. But until then...

>No Abstract Existence in Chara's page

Yeah, he totally needs a revision.

 

[BlackPAIN99]

@Darkmon cns

I already understood you ... I just want to address it.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

@Darkmon. That would be redundant. It would be like putting the inability to be hit by physical attacks by all non-corporeals or intangibles.

 

[Wokistan]

I feel like Demigra would need to have feats demonstrating an ability for his mindhax to work on someone who exists in as abstract a manner as Chara does. That sort of acausality tends to make a lot of powers not work.

 

[PaChi2]

I'm waiting for Azzy to disprove this, but for now, I'll abstain.

Boi

 

[Darkmon_cns]

@Darkmon. That would be redundant. It would be like putting the inability to be hit by physical attacks by all non-corporeals or intangibles.

That is what non corporeal means. But it clearly is not redundant if a whole thread could vote unanimously and not know the character has resistence to that.

 

[Wokistan]

Existing as a concept is abstract existence, which isn't on the profile. That's way beyond non corporeality. Acausality is already on the profile though, not sure why nobody bothered to notice that.

 

[BlackPAIN99]

and how does Acausality help against 4-D mind ****? I'm still learning so sorry xD

 

[Wokistan]

Not sure about the scale of Chara's acausality, but some Acausals are completely unbound from the flow of cause and effect, which makes them impossible to affect if the other character is limited in this way. Chaos gods are like that.

 

[Wokistan]

Say the cause and effect relationship of an attack hitting and then the victim being hurt by it. Some Acausals sidestep that completely, resulting in screwy things like attacks hurting people before the attack was even conceived, attacks hitting and doing literally nothing because the acausal didn't feel like adhering to the effect, the attack hitting and the attacker being hurt by it even though they weren't hit, etc. That's generally with "higher level" acausals though.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

Not sure about the scale of Chara's acausality, but some Acausals are completely unbound from the flow of cause and effect, which makes them impossible to affect if the other character is limited in this way. Chaos gods are like that.

I think it's from ether chara possibly giving you a phone call before she comes in a run or her still existing after recreating the world after a bunch of resets happened. So I think just time change resistece.

 

[Wokistan]

Chara still exists in an abstract form, though that's not on the profile for some reason. Has Demigra ever mindhaxxed a concept?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Her acausuality comes from their essence being bound to the playe, who is completly an outsider to the world itself