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But honestly this is actually really thematic surprisingly, if someone wants the connections then I'll say in the thread.
Final Act Saga Deku:
Vs
7-B Xiao: 4
Speed is equalized
To the death
The rest are standard
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Deku vs Xiao
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But honestly this is actually really thematic surprisingly, if someone wants the connections then I'll say in the thread.
Final Act Saga Deku:
Vs
7-B Xiao: 4
Speed is equalized
To the death
The rest are standard
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Doesn't Xiao kind of stomp because of soul hax, stats hax, damage reduction, and pocket reality manipulation?
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The pocket reality doesn't really matter, he can do it but we have never seen how he uses it, the rest of the adepti use it use it more as a domain or house then in a fight, and the damage rediction he gets is so small it doesn't matter, the stat amp isn't is only a bit in actual numbers, the soul haxs are a wincon for him though
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Voting Xiao.
Also since it's to death, Xiao can heal himself because of the mask he wears. So...
Also since it's to death, Xiao can heal himself because of the mask he wears. So...
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Wait nvm about the soul hax, he has to do an entire rite to turn deku into just his soul, which he wouldn't be able to do in a fight, and eating deku's dreams is an absolute last resort if xiao is absolutly screwed, he swore to never do it again as long as he lives (which is more then 2000 years),so i doubt he'd use soul haxs unless deku has him nearly dead
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They really need to mention these in the profiles....
Anyway, what's the ap difference?
Anyway, what's the ap difference?
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Xiao can only heal when his enemy has enough karma (which basically means there evil or mass murderers) which deku wouldn't have, xiao would be draining his health insted do to low karma, but vote counted
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Deku = Baseline 7-B upscaling from 5.4 Megatons
Xiao = Likely above baseline 7-B
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Oh
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Although note 7-B is only with 100% otherwise he’s just downscaling off shigaraki who scales above 3.91 Megatons in AP
When he’s using 45% so most of the match Xiao has an almost 2x AP advantage
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Sooooo what does this guy do? If his soul hax isn’t working, how does he fight? Is it just spear fighting with some wind blasts occasionally?
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Basically a personified pogo-stick, when using his mask he can jump insanely high and plunge on an enemy, and can do that repetivlly, or he can use the spear like a polarm in both base for and masked, and he has a dash attack which hits hard
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Also speed amps along with over a thousand years of experience backing him up
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whats the connections
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Basically these are the connections:
-Both were in a near death situation, before being saved by the person who they look up to the most, (All Might and Zhongli) who are the most known people of there country and are legends among the people, and they both trained under their wing to become as strong as them.
-Both are now heroes who are now on par with the person who once saved them do to both losing their their powers and basically retired from their old positions as the number one hero and archon, both deku and xiao wanting to help and save everyone in need as their life purpose.
Both are fast and intelligent fighters who use there speed in combat as an advatage, aswell as immense strength at the cost of destroying their own bodies with there powers, and both inherited something from there masters (All for One and the Primorial-Jade Spear)
And they are both green, thought id throw that in there too, there might be more that im forgetting about.
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Well anyway I’m voting for Xiao
For most of the fight Xiao has the AP advantage by a notable degree and can amp his speed to dodge most of Deku’s attacks
Even if he gets tagged by a 100% smash he can fight on
Has far more experience and skill as well
For most of the fight Xiao has the AP advantage by a notable degree and can amp his speed to dodge most of Deku’s attacks
Even if he gets tagged by a 100% smash he can fight on
Has far more experience and skill as well
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So a very old, skilled dragoon with a health sacrificing mask.
Well, to begin, Izuku matches for this key aren’t happening because he’s in the middle of an arc where he hasn’t shown everything he can do yet, especially since he has 2 extra, very important quirks not on his profile. He quite literally could have a speed amp quirk or some crazy hax next chapter, so matches are on hold until we have all his quirks or at least know what he can do with all of them.
Second, just for the sake of debate, what exactly does Xiao do to.... NOT get avoided by Danger Sense the entire fight? Izuku could predict the movements of people faster than him months ago BEFORE he had permanently active precog. He can see every one of Xiao’s attacks before they happen and can tell when he’s going to speed amp before he does it, so avoiding it, especially since it just seems to be a single thrust, would be very possible for him.
AP gap is noticeable but Deku can harm him either way so not that bad. He can launch literally dozens of 100% attacks if it comes down to it, so AP or stamina isn’t exactly a worry of his.
Speaking of 100%, Xiao is kinda screwed considering he doesn’t seem to speed amp all the time? While if Deku decides to use 100%, despite the damage he takes (which is reduced by a lot since his body basically digivolved), he gets a massive, blitz level speed amp that would let him practically dog pile Xiao like he did Shigaraki.
I feel like the whole fight is Deku dodging Xiao, being unable to really fight back effectively because skill gap lets him dodge his Blackwhip, and then just going 100% and ennacting his own speed amps.
I assume Xiao wouldn’t be dumb enough to put on a damage dealing mask that doesn’t help him at all here
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Xiao doesn’t have a direct counter but he can make several dozen meter wide fast 7-B wind blasts that will harm Deku due to sheer size albeit Deku can also try the same but Deku’s shockwaves are weaker than direct hits from him while Xiao’s aren’t
Xiao can sense and soul track Deku which will allow Xiao to evade his attacks
Deku can’t really dog pile Xiao here due to his elemental intangiblity where he can transform himself into pure Anemo energy with a mere thought (Just moving around as magic wind) where Deku can’t really harm him at all because he’s intangible in that state
Plus Deku dog piled shiggy who he was doing a lot of damage to with each hit, due to their AP being borderline even as long as Xiao doesn’t put on the mask Deku will tire himself out trying to beat down Xiao
Despite being able to launch dozens of attacks not many are gonna do much because
he can also create an elemental barrier which among Allogenes can no sell attacks from those who are far above them in power
Xiao’s speed amps occur in brief Bursts of 2-3 dashes if I remember correctly although the exact quantification of the speed is vague outside of much faster than his normal attacks and him being a speed based fighter if he’s not haxing with prep time
But I can still see this match going the direction of Xiao’s experience edge and skill edge letting him dodge black whip restraining and 100% smashes but still not being able to tag Deku outside of a few flukes or outliers
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While yes i would give the speed advantage to Deku by a noticeable amount, it wouldn't be enough to straight up blitz Xiao when in certain points it the fight Xiao would be MUCH faster with limnisatic wind-cycling (his dash) and him teleporting to keep up, and if it gets to the point where Deku is blitzing Xiao can just fly higher then what float can or turn into wind.
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Although Xiao's main precog (karma) is useless against deku, he can still sense his attacks because of the energy they produce, and he can know where Deku is at all times by tracking down his soul, paired with Xiao's skill (although deku can close the skill gap because of the other One for All users) its going to be hard for either to land many hits on the other, though if they hit there strongest attack before the other, its basically a win for them.
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Not necessarily it depends on when Deku would get hit
Xiao uses a spear and is putting 7-B force into a much smaller area of the edges of the spear, which means if Xiao gets a clean deep slash the fight is long already over especially if Deku is 45% if he gets hit
Deku will need many 100% attacks to bring Xiao down and for them to actually land which while Deku can launch many 100% attacks Xiao’s barriers no sell them.
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Tbh knowing the elemental shield strength in genshin, i wouldn't be surprised if Deku one-shots the shield, if it doesn't counter the said element it's facing then its basically paper
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Didn’t Ambers shield completely no sell an attack from a character far stronger than her tho?
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Ngl im waiting for the official release of the new chapters in the manga, so i wouldn't know how strong he is, plus it looked like he was using pyro? So amber should counter that by default.
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That’s fair I also am waiting for official release I’m just going off the pages here
But still Deku if he doesn’t hit the shield directly is using highly pressurized blasts of wind/shockwaves so Xiao’s barrier shuts down those at least completely
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alright just want to clear something because of the other threads, Xiao's wind shield can break by Deku, but its hard to know how it works because nothing in the game uses and anemo/wind shield and we won't know how it works, so for now it's best to ignore the shield strat
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Let's not forget that with his mask on, when he does a plunge attack, Xiao causes spears of wind energy to pop out of the ground.
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Deku jumps away from the ground because Danger Sense tells him spears are coming from the ground.
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honestly I don’t even think Xiao will bust out the mask anyway since for most of the fight he will be stronger than Deku
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Assuming he dodges in time as the spears appear literally instantly when Xiao hits the ground.
Regardless, this is just me mentioning another factor that Deku would have to deal with IF Xiao pulls out the mask.
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No, as in Danger Sense would tell him that Danger is coming from Xiao and the ground before he hits the ground. It’s precog for a reason, it tells him what’s happening before it happens.
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I don't remember Deku having a form a precog, but it's likely one of his newer powers.
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