Deku VS Optimus Prime (GRACE)

[Keeweed]

If it made him 8-A+ we would list that on the profile. For amps like this I’m pretty sure it’s always considered completely unqualifiable (since we don’t know the rate at all, it could be linear, it could be rapid, it could slow down and speed up randomly, etc and etc). So I’m not sure I can say it would get past the forcefield or not. I think my biggest thing is how ap is treated on this site varies so much from person to person. I’ve seen a character with a 100 character stomp chain still be considered to have the ap disadvantage despite not even being two times weaker than his opponent, but then I’ve seen a character be somewhat better than their feat and people say he absolutely should have the ap advantage over someone with a 2 times ap over the number the first guy scales to (probably worded that weird, but I don’t know how else to explain it).

I guess being strict with the objective numbers that forcefield is stopping Deku in his tracks, but being lenient I can see why people would say Deku has the ap to break through.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

If it made him 8-A+ we would list that on the profile. For amps like this I’m pretty sure it’s always considered completely unqualifiable (since we don’t know the rate at all, it could be linear, it could be rapid, it could slow down and speed up randomly, etc and etc). So I’m not sure I can say it would get past the forcefield or not. I think my biggest thing is how ap is treated on this site varies so much from person to person. I’ve seen a character with a 100 character stomp chain still be considered to have the ap disadvantage despite not even being two times weaker than his opponent, but then I’ve seen a character be somewhat better than their feat and people say he absolutely should have the ap advantage over someone with a 2 times ap over the number the first guy scales to (probably worded that weird, but I don’t know how else to explain it).

I guess being strict with the objective numbers that forcefield is stopping Deku in his tracks, but being lenient I can see why people would say Deku has the ap to break through.

I guess I just fall on the more lenient side? Idk match just seems more interesting if it doesn’t just come down to Character dodge but fail to break shield, repeat for five hours until one gets tired and gives up.

 

[Keeweed]

I mean, what’s funnier is understandable, but it isn’t what should be vote on. Watching someone like Dante style on an opponent is really cool, but if an opponent just stands there and wins then they just stand there and win.

 

[Harith0cell]

wait deku with fa jin is 7-A? If so this is stomp, i take my vote back.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

I mean, what’s funnier is understandable, but it isn’t what should be vote on. Watching someone like Dante style on an opponent is really cool, but if an opponent just stands there and wins then they just stand there and win.

i don’t know how much stamina Optimus has but Deku went for weeks without proper sleep, fighting people alone all the way, he COULD dodge and wait for Optimus to tire, but the all out brawl seems like the more likely thing given the two characters

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

wait deku with fa jin is 7-A? If so this is stomp, i take my vote back.

He’s not, he boosts himself based on the KE he generates, it’s based on form he’s in. In 30% he won’t go past 8-A.

 

[Keeweed]

i don’t know how much stamina Optimus has but Deku went for weeks without proper sleep, fighting people alone all the way, he COULD dodge and wait for Optimus to tire, but the all out brawl seems like the more likely thing given the two characters

I know there was a time Prime flew threw space constantly, though I don’t know how long he traveled for, I’ll check on that later. When I checked the Megatron thing I was surprised he made his space flight in a day (though if I’m reading it right that was just one part of his journey). So Prime currently scales to fighting while being torn apart and being active for a full day straight at least. Though if this is going off the assumption Deku can’t get past the shield. Nothing stops Prime from just taking it very easy and taking pot shots at Deku to force him to constantly need to act (like why would prime be the pressed one here, he’s the one that’s invincible and has a gun).

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

I know there was a time Prime flew threw space constantly, though I don’t know how long he traveled for, I’ll check on that later. When I checked the Megatron thing I was surprised he made his space flight in a day (though if I’m reading it right that was just one part of his journey). So Prime currently scales to fighting while being torn apart and being active for a full day straight at least. Though if this is going off the assumption Deku can’t get past the shield. Nothing stops Prime from just taking it very easy and taking pot shots at Deku to force him to constantly need to act.

That is true (but I gotta finish a project, so I’ll come back if I can finish that quickly)

 

[Keeweed]

I have school starting tomorrow, so also wanted to rest up. So I’ll be back later as well.

 

[SuperStar]

Deku's Fa Jin can boost his strength and speed by an unknown amount. I keep seeing this often in some verses thread, where people think if Deku used Fa Jin at lower percentages, he could jump into different tiers. Which is not the case

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

though I don’t know how long he traveled for, I’ll check on that later

He did so for about a year or so. As AOE takes place in 2016 and TLK takes place in 2017

 

[Keeweed]

He did so for about a year or so. As AOE takes place in 2016 and TLK takes place in 2017

Then that should definitely be added to Prime’s stamina justification (I’m not sure if we should assume he stopped somewhere, where could he have stopped since space is very empty and he can’t land on gas giants nor stars).