Deku vs All For One [7-1-0]

[Therefir]

Deku vs All For One

Deku is send back to Kamino to face All For One by himself.

Dark Hero Arc Deku and Hideout Raid Arc All For One are being used. Speed is not equalized.

Deku: 7 (Kingofwolves999, TheRustyOne, SlendVeny, ThePrimalHunter, XSOULOFCINDERX, Mapl3Sy4up, Kingofwolves999)
All For One: 1 (Danny33wise)
Inconclusive:

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Ok so imagine a slightly weaker All Might shows up in Kamino except he has even more quirks and higher battle IQ as well as prior intelligence on what AFO can do.

Deku is weaker here but Fa Jin puts the gap in his favor. Danger Sense means he can avoid attacks though if this is EXACTLY like Kamino then Deku might have to tank hits for civilians. Blackwhip is good for movement but AFO has ways out of it.

Ultimately I think the deciding factor is just going to be Deku activating 100% of OFA and tanking through whatever AFO has to beat him down worse than All Might did. His current 100% could punch off Weakened AM’s jaw, Kamino AFO is getting put in a pack. AFO still has stamina issues and even with impact recoil, he’s getting bodied if Deku just goes Plus Ultra to beat him (also Blackwhip inside his tendons might actually help him withstand impact recoil better).

Actually, thinking about it, Deku literally fought Flect Turn who turned his punches back on him and tanked doing it for like 5 minutes straight, impact recoil is barely annoying him honestly.

 

[TheRustyOne]

AFO doesn't really have anything that can put Izuku down without a long drawn out fight. While Izuku can easily end this fight by destroying his life support mask and waiting him out. He could even one shot and blitz with build up Fa Jin. All Quirks have limits, so I doubt Impact Recoil could reflect all of that damage.

Izuku is also very use to withstanding his attacks being reflected back at him, so it wouldn't bother him that much. However, Izuku is already aware AFO can do that and won't stupidly throw strikes at him. I'm pretty sure Izuku can even toss him around with Blackwhip as well. If he can restrain Tomura, he can restrain AFO.

Not trying to make it seem like this is a super easy fight with zero difficulty. It's just that the outcome seems a bit obvious to me. While nearby civilians are a problem, Izuku having Float + Blackwhip allows him to easily move this fight high up into the sky. AFO doesn't have a choice in the matter either.

If he tries to aim at civilians to force Izuku's hand, he'll just leave himself open for attacks. While he's a bit weaker than All Might, Izuku not suffering from an injury like All Might is massively helpful. He can take far more punishment than All Might did, and can inflict far more damage as well.

I think Izuku's also willing to use 100% against AFO. So if he see an opening, I can see him going for that one shot victory. Doesn't even need to build Fa Jin in that case.

Should be clear that I'm voting for Izuku here.

 

[SlendVeny]

Yeah, the moment Deku decides it's time to put AFO down for good, the fight ends.

Deku FRA

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

Deku FRA

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Deku is putting All For One on a shirt FRA.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Deku FRA

 

[Danny33wise]

Voting afo. While deku is an experienced fighter and all that. It is very easy for him to completely lose his cool expecially when afo would start targeting civilians as a way to force deku hands.

Deku is not all might who has much experience in fighting someone like afo. If deku tries to carry the battle a significant good distance away from the civilians, this is something afo would know. And seeing doe deku would probably be able to dodge multiple of his attacks. Afo advantage would be to let the battle happen the way it did with all might where their can be a bunch civilians and heroes to maim.

I find it more believable and logical that afo would use his advantage very well to land multiple hit on deku.

 

[TauanVictor]

While Deku has an IQ advantage in battle and versatility, AFO has some advantages that, it seems, are being underestimated.

The fact that the fight is in Kamino brings a ground advantage to AFO because he can limit and drive Deku crazy by putting civilians in danger, and he is vile enough to do this to any civilian, from healthy adults to babies, pregnant women, the elderly, children etc, and all without having to touch them. For example, if AFO picks up a baby and throws it far away, would Deku save the baby or attack AFO who opened a breach? Deku would have to take the fight to the air, and it wouldn't be as easy as it was with Overhaul because AFO is stronger than Deku, and all this while having to stop AFO from killing civilians.

Danger Sense can be useful against opponents who can't mine the battlefield with AoE like AFO can. AFO can calmly deal with Blackwhip, and any stronger shockwave from Deku would be repelled.

AFO can analyze the opponent's weaknesses and predict where he will be attacked. Fa Jin can be avoided with Warping and Deku would have to find an opening that would be avoided by AFO's analytical foresight.

So I'm voting AFO.

 

[TheRustyOne]

AFO cannot warp himself. He also has inferior LS to 45%, meaning he cannot easily escape Blackwhip. AFO aims for nearby civilians with his long ranged attacks, he's never moved out of his way to grab one hostage. Izuku with Fa Jin or 100% can blitz and one shot AFO at literally anytime.

AFO is inferior to Incomplete Tomura, who almost lost his jaw from a single 100% attack. AFO also has nothing that can put down Izuku in a single attack. The only thing attacking civilian does here is give him a single cheap shot before Izuku stomps him into the ground.

Fa Jin cannot be avoided, it scales vastly higher than anything he can handle. A single Fa Jin attack or 100% battle can end this fight.

Either of those attacks scale far above the United States of Smash that knocked AFO out.

 

[TauanVictor]

AFO cannot warp himself.

I'm talking about warp Deku.

He also has inferior LS to 45%, meaning he cannot easily escape Blackwhip.

He can easily break it with UQC.

AFO aims for nearby civilians with his long ranged attacks, he's never moved out of his way to grab one hostage.

AFO is naturally Bloodlusted, he will do anything to destabilize Deku. His Social Influence can even scare All Might.

Izuku with Fa Jin or 100% can blitz and one shot AFO at literally anytime.

AFO can predict anything Deku does, and I doubt that AFO would make Deku comfortable in an opening with Fa Jin, even more so in the air.

AFO also has nothing that can put down Izuku in a single attack. The only thing attacking civilian does here is give him a single cheap shot before Izuku stomps him into the ground.

Deku's priority is to save people. He would certainly try to save the civilians by taking the battle into the air or something, which creates several openings for AFO to attack.

And Deku doesn't start with Fa Jin. AFO can use several Air Cannons in combination to weaken and kill him.

 

[Therefir]

I'm talking about warp Deku.

I think it only works on people with whom AFO has a close relationship, and he can only warp people to himself.

AFO is naturally Bloodlusted, he will do anything to destabilize Deku. His Social Influence can even scare All Might.

Hmm, AFO's vestige has tried to destabilize Deku before, but it didn't work.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

I'm talking about warp Deku.

He can easily break it with UQC.

AFO is naturally Bloodlusted, he will do anything to destabilize Deku. His Social Influence can even scare All Might.

AFO can predict anything Deku does, and I doubt that AFO would make Deku comfortable in an opening with Fa Jin, even more so in the air.

Deku's priority is to save people. He would certainly try to save the civilians by taking the battle into the air or something, which creates several openings for AFO to attack.

And Deku doesn't start with Fa Jin. AFO can use several Air Cannons in combination to weaken and kill him.

AFO can only warp Deku closer to himself, and even if he does, Goo Warp can be overpowered.

If AFO uses UQC then he has more problems than Blackwhip considering Deku will go 100%. UQC is his final gambit attack.

Nothing AFO has can shake Deku as he has no info or knowledge or care for him other than attacking civilians. The vestiges are also going to keep him straight and Deku’s own willpower is enough to subjugate AFO’s.

AFO cannot predict Deku as he has no knowledge on him. He doesn’t know he has Fa Jin or anything, just that he has OFA. He might sense the other wielders but that is just going to leave him more confused not at an advantage.

Saving people by going full power and dragging AFO into the sky or as far away as possible would be Deku’s first instinct.

Deku uses Fa Jin the exact moment he encounters difficulty, against AFO he’s spamming it. AFO has no choice about letting him store Fa Jin since he can build it by just flexing his joints while doing other things since he can multitask.

 

[TauanVictor]

I think it only works on people with whom AFO has a close relationship, and he can only warp people to himself.

AFO has a close relationship with Deku.

 

[TauanVictor]

AFO can only warp Deku closer to himself

He teleported the entire League of Villains close to him and he wasn't even close.

and even if he does, Goo Warp can be overpowered.

Show Deku doing it.

If AFO uses UQC then he has more problems than Blackwhip considering Deku will go 100%. UQC is his final gambit attack.

Context is important. Deku uses Blackwhip. AFO gets stuck in the Blackwhip. AFO uses UQC. The fight with All Might was in a different context, so there's no reason to assume that AFO will act in the same way.

AFO cannot predict Deku as he has no knowledge on him. He doesn’t know he has Fa Jin or anything, just that he has OFA. He might sense the other wielders but that is just going to leave him more confused not at an advantage.

He can know Deku's weaknesses and predict where he will be attacked. I never said AFO would know everything about Deku, but it's an advantage Deku doesn't have.

Deku uses Fa Jin the exact moment he encounters difficulty, against AFO he’s spamming it. AFO has no choice about letting him store Fa Jin since he can build it by just flexing his joints while doing other things since he can multitask.

AFO knows that Deku has OFA and would be a threat, so he uses his AoE to send him away and then grabs a civilian, reloads or something. AFO won't let Deku get close.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

He teleported the entire League of Villains close to him and he wasn't even close.

Show Deku doing it.

Context is important. Deku uses Blackwhip. AFO gets stuck in the Blackwhip. AFO uses UQC. The fight with All Might was in a different context, so there's no reason to assume that AFO will act in the same way.

He can know Deku's weaknesses and predict where he will be attacked. I never said AFO would know everything about Deku, but it's an advantage Deku doesn't have.

AFO knows that Deku has OFA and would be a threat, so he uses his AoE to send him away and then grabs a civilian, reloads or something. AFO won't let Deku get close.

First point didn’t address anything.

Shigaraki overpowered it so superior LS Deku can too. Me showing you something that didn’t happen is ridiculous and petty.

Context is irrelevant and you didn’t read. He uses UQC, Deku goes 100% and beats his skull in through all his powers just like AM except even easier.

Incomplete Shigaraki also had Search and could not do that to Deku. He literally called 100% Deku so overwhelming in power that he had no options of defeating him. He has no counters to him and Deku doesn’t have exploitable weaknesses.

“He uses AoE to send him away” Danger Sense ping alerts him so it never hurts him seriously, Fa Jin or even just a normal punch cancels or redirects it. AFO cannot get Deku off of him nor has anything to keep him from getting close, especially when he goes 100% and he is inferior to him in LS.

Fa Jin deletes any hope AFO has of keeping Deku away from him and Deku can build it in literal seconds, that’s assuming he doesn’t just go 100% and destroy AFO from the get go.

 

[Nierre]

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