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DEATHBATTLE! Accuracy Scale [Part 5]
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Wasn't Nightmare only listed as City Block level and Supersonic, here, as of Guts vs Nightmare's airing? I remember distinctly thinking that the result was iffy, and then coming back here to check and being surprised that Soul Calibur was only 8-B.
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nah, Nightmare is mountain, night terror is much higher. so he still claps guts unfortunately
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also, should miles vs static be in the right, good section btw.
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@Sorvoe, you forgot Mewtwo vs Shadow (Mega Mewtwo vs Super Shadow)
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Nightmare should've been matched up with ATT Ragna the Bloodedge
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@Theuser
Yeah, I know, I was rushing to get it done. Still a sizable portion, it'll definitely change up the list placement a bit.
@Migue
They addressed mainly X era feats and limited his forms to Black Zero and Absolute Zero in their analysis, so that's why I didn't label him "Composite Zero." If they did use Zero era, it would be a different story. That reminds me, weren't you making a crt to make Zero era faster?
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I'd say mid to low for Right, Good for Miles vs Static. Good numbers, but they still undersold Miles' strength and seemed to wank their speed to some extent.
Yeah, I know, I was rushing to get it done. Still a sizable portion, it'll definitely change up the list placement a bit.
@Migue
They addressed mainly X era feats and limited his forms to Black Zero and Absolute Zero in their analysis, so that's why I didn't label him "Composite Zero." If they did use Zero era, it would be a different story. That reminds me, weren't you making a crt to make Zero era faster?
@Falcon
I'd say mid to low for Right, Good for Miles vs Static. Good numbers, but they still undersold Miles' strength and seemed to wank their speed to some extent.
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They addressed him defeating Omega powered by the Mother Elf and Copy X, as well as the X era enemies. They also addressed some of his Zero era equipment like the Proto/Junk forms. I think it is fair game he gets all his abilities from both eras.
And yes. The CRT with the upgrades so far has been accepted by DDM. So, yeah.
And yes. The CRT with the upgrades so far has been accepted by DDM. So, yeah.
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They also used post gen feats/scans for Metal, so that's that if we count adreessing as being used, plus I heard they actualy only used X era, but don't renember where, maybe the Death Battle wikia page, idk, not like it changes much
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But can he kill Hulk? Plus isnt there other ways Hulk can put him down?Sorvoe551 said:
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how tho. Tatsu is still faster, more experieced, and is more powerful
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bruh bruh bruh bruh
Sub-Rela mob is based on a different speed value for lightning. Tatsumaki should scale to Flashy Flash's relativistic feat, so she blitzes regardless
Sub-Rela mob is based on a different speed value for lightning. Tatsumaki should scale to Flashy Flash's relativistic feat, so she blitzes regardless
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As they explained in Death Battle, that lightning isn't as fast as it's claimed to be since it isn't the return stroke.
Also, again as shown, Tornado is more experienced, has power nullification and deflection equal to Mob, can attack and defend at the same time, unlike Mob, and her power output is greater than anything Mob's shield can absorb, as proven with the broccoli. Their AP may be almost equal, but Tornado has the versatility
Also, again as shown, Tornado is more experienced, has power nullification and deflection equal to Mob, can attack and defend at the same time, unlike Mob, and her power output is greater than anything Mob's shield can absorb, as proven with the broccoli. Their AP may be almost equal, but Tornado has the versatility
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actually, mob is the one who can attack and defend at the same time. mob has overall more abilities, but i do agree tatsumaki's abilties are nearly as versatile and her abilities are far more offensive based, mainly dealing with deadly blows, precise attacks, and taking away her opponents powers
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Yes, but it needs to be done how they explained it in DB. Hulk and Doomsday can basically swing away at each other and keep going, but once Doomsday adapts enough to overpower Hulk's healing factor and gets him to revert back to Bruce, he wins. Like how Zeus and Sentry could hit hard enough to get him to revert back. It'll take a while, but due to the power gap (Hulk at about 276 FOE and Doomsday at about 390 FOE conservatively), Doomsday will eventually win
Yes, but it needs to be done how they explained it in DB. Hulk and Doomsday can basically swing away at each other and keep going, but once Doomsday adapts enough to overpower Hulk's healing factor and gets him to revert back to Bruce, he wins. Like how Zeus and Sentry could hit hard enough to get him to revert back. It'll take a while, but due to the power gap (Hulk at about 276 FOE and Doomsday at about 390 FOE conservatively), Doomsday will eventually win
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Can you even overpower Regenerationn by brute force? Hulk again has better regen then how DB claimed, plus doesnt Hulk adapt too?
I get we go by the rules of DB, but that doesnt mean what they say its always true, they said he wasnt able to keep up with MFTL characters till WB cane in, yet thats not the case
I get we go by the rules of DB, but that doesnt mean what they say its always true, they said he wasnt able to keep up with MFTL characters till WB cane in, yet thats not the case
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Pretty sure WW Hulk has higher AP than Doomsday, not the contrary
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Yeah, I realized that after I typed that, but High-End Doomsday is about 560 FOE. Also, Darkness, yes you can in the case of Hulk's anger due to how the brain works. Sure, you may not destroy his body, but he can't keep putting out the chemicals needed and he won't be mad anymore. See Zeus and Sentry again
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You honestly trust their brain anger thing....nowhere in comics was implied he needs regen to keep anger, when was ever a thing Hulk couldnt keep getting angrier cuz of the chemicals in the brain
Sentry from what i remember used his aura to calm Hulk, nothing of brute strength to bypass regen, Zeus used lightning i think too, even if he used brute strength, the guy is like what 2-C here, Doomsday is not even close to that
Sentry from what i remember used his aura to calm Hulk, nothing of brute strength to bypass regen, Zeus used lightning i think too, even if he used brute strength, the guy is like what 2-C here, Doomsday is not even close to that
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Doomsday should be higher than where he's currently placed tbqh but whatever
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So this thread has been quiet for a few days, so I'm jumping back in to bring up some points I found.
Hulk vs Doomsday: I found a calculation for Doomsday that puts him around 6.9 KiloFOE (bottom comment here ). While that's still nothing compared to what Hulk can do, it's better than 560. However, Doomsday is way faster than Hulk, has his poison bones, way better regen, and huge resistances to being beaten down. Given the brain theory they proposed, I think it would take a while, but Doomsday should eventually win.
Naruto vs Ichigo: God-Tier Naruto characters were bumped back up to FTL again recently. Since we're doing strongest forms now as a rule, that should mean that Naruto's speed and hax should let him win.
Hulk vs Doomsday: I found a calculation for Doomsday that puts him around 6.9 KiloFOE (bottom comment here ). While that's still nothing compared to what Hulk can do, it's better than 560. However, Doomsday is way faster than Hulk, has his poison bones, way better regen, and huge resistances to being beaten down. Given the brain theory they proposed, I think it would take a while, but Doomsday should eventually win.
Naruto vs Ichigo: God-Tier Naruto characters were bumped back up to FTL again recently. Since we're doing strongest forms now as a rule, that should mean that Naruto's speed and hax should let him win.
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btw, i think carnage vs lucy should be moved to accurate now. thanks to our boy Migue, Lucy got relativistic feats, which far surpass carnage's speed. and no, puddle lucy isnt a form, stahp saying that. this is her natural reactions.
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@Migue
First off, awesome job on the Lucy calc, dude! While DMUA accepted the low-end Sub-Rel, it's still a great upgrade.
Also, if Naruto is still faster and his Sage Mode senses lets him further react faster, it should still let him win. Granted, it'll take a while, but he should be able to do it
First off, awesome job on the Lucy calc, dude! While DMUA accepted the low-end Sub-Rel, it's still a great upgrade.
Also, if Naruto is still faster and his Sage Mode senses lets him further react faster, it should still let him win. Granted, it'll take a while, but he should be able to do it
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Thanks, man. Technically, it could be higher considering that WPS should be fine to use in the context of the feat. But oh well. If said method's not accepted, then I guess I can't question it.
Granted, Ichigo could scale above said feat significantly. It was calced to be... 1.3c btw. Slower than Naruto's 2.6c I think? If Naruto's hax is proficient enough I guess it changes nothing and Naruto still wins.
Granted, Ichigo could scale above said feat significantly. It was calced to be... 1.3c btw. Slower than Naruto's 2.6c I think? If Naruto's hax is proficient enough I guess it changes nothing and Naruto still wins.
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You forgot the bankai multipler.
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1.29x5=6.45c
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Yeah, the Masculine light beam discussion just happened recently, though since Renji is a high-tier, some comparable high tiers might scale as well
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