DCEU Characters upscale

[BORUSTHEDOMINATEROFTHEGALAXY]

So i am going to be making a thread about how underrated dceu characters are and basically i think they slam the mcu even if you boost the mcu characters to star lvl or uni

Firstly lets start with the man of steel himself superman i think within his movies he can get alot higher than agreed upon "multi continental" scale in man of steel the world engine feat is often interperted as multi cont but it is actually star level because of one simple fact the vfx artist stated that the world engine could create neutron stars by compacting matter at a planets core meaning it can survive the energy of neutron star per second which 10 to the 50th joules of energy which is star lvl or even solar system level thats just man of steel and this a full "few weeks" calc so it could be even higher if it was days and even if it was not doing the same to earth as krpyton the world engine can still do it in a few weeks as stated in the start of the movie when jor el talks to krpytons council so it can still emit that same amount of energy in the timeframe as the indian ocean world engine the vfx artist confirm its the one as seen in the indiin ocean or the same type of machine implyiing they can do the same type of thing and same durability so superman even destroying or affecting the world engine gets him to star or solar system level first movie!!!!!

Bvs upscales wonder woman and doomsday they also are star lvl


in the justice league movie snyder and whedon cut superman can seperate the motherboxes and destroy and depower them because desaad says the motherboxes are destroyed and in th whedon cut the motherboxes blow up so i believe that is galaxy level because the vfx artist for the snyder cut say the motherbox destrys everythign with a quasar at the origin of it all qausars are powered by supermassive blackholes and emit more energy and light than entire galaxies like our own and the energy dwarfs galaxies like our own so it could be galaxy+ feat but it is galaxy level

the motherboxes are stated to be power and have unlimited energy and peprtual energy meaning they are universal in terms of potential energy output so superman destroying them would scale him to universal or high uni as infinite energy is high uni and the motherboxes being abel to survive that output give em uni durability and supes can destroy and seperate them

this is also an upscale for Zeus who did it with one shot and shazam who has Zeus lightning and his power galaxy to uni level zeus and shazam along with ares who killed zeus so wonder woman could be as well considering she beat ares

darkseid is also upscaled because he is on par with superman as stated by zack snyder himself alognside steppenwolf and he also crushed steppen wolf head who can endure supermans punches who is uni also upscale for aquaman trident and wonder woman sword cuz they can pierce and cut steppenwolf and zack snyder said aquamans trident can pierce superman skin cyborg also can endure bloodlusted superman laser beam and react to it


the flash movie and some in universe implications for supes from his novel and enchantress scaling

so for flash we know he says the speed force is dimensional layer of reality that can manipulate spacetime= 4d so flash is 4d already
he can go "far beyond the speed of light" ambiguous and not just "faster than the speed of light" and he travels through linear time afterwards so he has immeasurable speed. flash has immeasurable speed
novel states supes can resist extra dimensional forces which is above our 4d realm therefore 5d supes
enchnatress is 5d as she is extra dimensional 5d again which supes is stated to be the most unstoppable force in the dceu so yeah hes 5d

supes is at least ftl to mftl because the novel states he can escape the event horizon of a blackhole which you have to be ftl for

his heat vision are stated to be heat rays by the novel = light speed via electromagnetic radiation which is light speed and they reflect off of surfaces and are stated to be red beams of light

multiple times supes in guidebooks states that his fighting speed is as fast as his travel speed and we see him move while shooting his lasers at doomsday as referenced in the picture by the

guidebook upscaling doomsday wonder woman and zod who all fight on par and react to the beams after they are shot


so hes ftl to immesaurbale in speed cuz he can perception blitz flash and zod form the flash movie can grab flash out of the speedforce chronoball which is outside of time and supes in the movie is the only one who can beat zos=d as sated by flash himself so supes should be as fast as that zod

flash in that movie can tank lightning from dark flash which can affect and engulf and cause the chrono ball to collide and young barry can shoot lightning which can destroy pieces of the chrono ball which sits outside of time and holds infinite spacetime contimums as we know the dceu universe is a spacetime aka 4d so chrono ball holding on to all those universes and more scales it to 5d so flash is 5d via flash movie with his lightning and durability we know durability scales so ap so yeah


mcu characters like thor thanos and hulk and iron man not even continent level or ftl except for maybe the celestials or cpt marvel lmaoooo

 

[Kaydee1648]

not a single scan in sight

 

[Excellence616]

All yap, no scan

 

[BORUSTHEDOMINATEROFTHEGALAXY]

not a single scan in sight

i will edit it later to get the movie clips and transcripts and vfx links if i can seems like a lot of work rn though but these do exist

 

[ByArrow]

Firstly lets start with the man of steel himself superman i think within his movies he can get alot higher than agreed upon "multi continental" scale in man of steel the world engine feat is often interperted as multi cont but it is actually star level because of one simple fact the vfx artist stated that the world engine could create neutron stars by compacting matter at a planets core meaning it can survive the energy of neutron star per second which 10 to the 50th joules of energy which is star lvl or even solar system level thats just man of steel and this a full "few weeks" calc so it could be even higher if it was days and even if it was not doing the same to earth as krpyton the world engine can still do it in a few weeks as stated in the start of the movie when jor el talks to krpytons council so it can still emit that same amount of energy in the timeframe as the indian ocean world engine the vfx artist confirm its the one as seen in the indiin ocean or the same type of machine implyiing they can do the same type of thing and same durability so superman even destroying or affecting the world engine gets him to star or solar system level first movie!!!!!

That wasn't what they did on scene.

in the justice league movie snyder and whedon cut superman can seperate the motherboxes and destroy and depower them because desaad says the motherboxes are destroyed and in th whedon cut the motherboxes blow up so i believe that is galaxy level because the vfx artist for the snyder cut say the motherbox destrys everythign with a quasar at the origin of it all qausars are powered by supermassive blackholes and emit more energy and light than entire galaxies like our own and the energy dwarfs galaxies like our own so it could be galaxy+ feat but it is galaxy level

This could be work.

the motherboxes are stated to be power and have unlimited energy and peprtual energy meaning they are universal in terms of potential energy output so superman destroying them would scale him to universal or high uni as infinite energy is high uni and the motherboxes being abel to survive that output give em uni durability and supes can destroy and seperate them

These statements cannot be scaled so high without things to support them.

so for flash we know he says the speed force is dimensional layer of reality that can manipulate spacetime= 4d

Speed Force is not 4-D, it's 10-D.

so flash is 4d already

No

he can go "far beyond the speed of light" ambiguous and not just "faster than the speed of light"

Same meaning.

and he travels through linear time afterwards so he has immeasurable speed.

No. He entered the Speed Force by moving faster than the speed of light and traveled back in time within the Speed Force using the Cronobowl. He did not travel through the flow of time using sheer speed. So no immeasurable speed.

flash has immeasurable speed

No

novel states supes can resist extra dimensional forces which is above our 4d realm therefore 5d supes

Since we know nothing about the power of this extra dimensional force, it provides nothing.

enchnatress is 5d as she is extra dimensional 5d again which supes is stated to be the most unstoppable force in the dceu so yeah hes 5d

No.

supes is at least ftl to mftl because the novel states he can escape the event horizon of a blackhole which you have to be ftl for

Anyone with enough LS can do this. So it needs to be calculated.

Also he has anti-feat for FTL. If he were that fast, he'd speed blitzed Flash.

his heat vision are stated to be heat rays by the novel = light speed via electromagnetic radiation which is light speed and they reflect off of surfaces and are stated to be red beams of light

This is already on his profile.

multiple times supes in guidebooks states that his fighting speed is as fast as his travel speed

They are already scaled to each other.

and we see him move while shooting his lasers at doomsday as referenced in the picture by the guidebook

This doesn't make him fast as his heat vision.

upscaling doomsday wonder woman and zod who all fight on par and react to the beams after they are shot

This is relativistic speed feat, not FTL.

so hes ftl to immesaurbale in speed cuz he can perception blitz flash

Flash wasn't traveling at FTL speeds on that scene.

and zod form the flash movie can grab flash out of the speedforce chronoball which is outside of time and supes in the movie is the only one who can beat zos=d as sated by flash himself so supes should be as fast as that zod

As we see in the Flash movie and Justice League movie, Kryptonians are slower than Speedsters. So no.

lash in that movie can tank lightning from dark flash which can affect and engulf and cause the chrono ball to collide and young barry can shoot lightning which can destroy pieces of the chrono ball which sits outside of time and holds infinite spacetime contimums as we know the dceu universe is a spacetime aka 4d so chrono ball holding on to all those universes and more scales it to 5d so flash is 5d via flash movie with his lightning and durability we know durability scales so ap so yeah

This feat is an outliner. Therefore, we cannot use it.

 

[Ozcantabak]

How does mcu characters being continental or star level effects the dceu bro

 

[Ozcantabak]

Firstly lets start with the man of steel himself superman i think within his movies he can get alot higher than agreed upon "multi continental" scale in man of steel the world engine feat is often interperted as multi cont but it is actually star level because of one simple fact the vfx artist stated that the world engine could create neutron stars by compacting matter at a planets core meaning it can survive the energy of neutron star per second which 10 to the 50th joules of energy which is star lvl or even solar system level thats just man of steel and this a full "few weeks" calc so it could be even higher if it was days and even if it was not doing the same to earth as krpyton the world engine can still do it in a few weeks as stated in the start of the movie when jor el talks to krpytons council so it can still emit that same amount of energy in the timeframe as the indian ocean world engine the vfx artist confirm its the one as seen in the indiin ocean or the same type of machine implyiing they can do the same type of thing and same durability so superman even destroying or affecting the world engine gets him to star or solar system level first movie!!!!!

Yeah this is true, world engine turning kryptons core to a neutron (specificly pulsar) star has 3 different statements, and its stated that this process would later be done to earth. However idk if it would grant star level or solar system level energy to the engine because i dont know how to calc it myself.
Also i actually do have another world engine calc but i'm still waiting for it to get accepted.

in the justice league movie snyder and whedon cut superman can seperate the motherboxes and destroy and depower them because desaad says the motherboxes are destroyed and in th whedon cut the motherboxes blow up so i believe that is galaxy level because the vfx artist for the snyder cut say the motherbox destrys everythign with a quasar at the origin of it all qausars are powered by supermassive blackholes and emit more energy and light than entire galaxies like our own and the energy dwarfs galaxies like our own so it could be galaxy+ feat but it is galaxy level

This is true, some other vfx artist even say that the Mother boxes destroyed the entire universe.

the motherboxes are stated to be power and have unlimited energy and peprtual energy meaning they are universal in terms of potential energy output so superman destroying them would scale him to universal or high uni as infinite energy is high uni and the motherboxes being abel to survive that output give em uni durability and supes can destroy and seperate them

Also true.

so for flash we know he says the speed force is dimensional layer of reality that can manipulate spacetime= 4d so flash is 4d already
he can go "far beyond the speed of light" ambiguous and not just "faster than the speed of light" and he travels through linear time afterwards so he has immeasurable speed. flash has immeasurable speed
novel states supes can resist extra dimensional forces which is above our 4d realm therefore 5d supes
enchnatress is 5d as she is extra dimensional 5d again which supes is stated to be the most unstoppable force in the dceu so yeah hes 5d

Yeah speed force is 10D, however we don't know if flash can use every power of the speed force.
I agree that ftl shouldn't be a cap for dceu.
Extra-dimensional could mean another universe, it does'nt have to mean 4d or 5d.

supes is at least ftl to mftl because the novel states he can escape the event horizon of a blackhole which you have to be ftl for

I used to belive the same, but the novel doesnt say he was at the event horizon, it just says he was trying to get clear of the event horizon which could also mean he was outside it since the black hole would will try to pull you even if you are outside its event horizon.

Overall i do agree with most of these feats and have scans for all of them and some more but i don't belive this should be the way how we implement them.

Hold on why did you tag dceu superman wank.

 

[Ozcantabak]

I can't tell whatever this is a troll or not, but nevertheless i am working on a more reasonable upgrade thread.
Also here are some of the scans op is talking about if anyones interested at all.

• Kryptons core was turned into a neutron star by a world engine and the same thing was happening to earth, another statement of kryptons core being a neutron star, another one, a pulasar.
• Mother boxes created a quasar.
• Mother boxes are perpetual energy matrices. (From 2017 jl)
• Boxes possibly destroyed the universe.
• Statements about flash creating mini big bangs and spawning galaxies.
• When talking about the time reversel scene they had to animate barry differently cause he was unstuck in time.
• Flash can trescend space/time and can be at several places at the same time.(7:55)

So these statements does exist and can be taken into account under certian circumstances.

 

[BORUSTHEDOMINATEROFTHEGALAXY]

I can't tell whatever this is a troll or not, but nevertheless i am working on a more reasonable upgrade thread.
Also here are some of the scans op is talking about if anyones interested at all.

• Kryptons core was turned into a neutron star by a world engine and the same thing was happening to earth, another statement of kryptons core being a neutron star, a pulasar.
• Mother boxes created a quasar.
• Mother boxes are perpetual energy matrices. (From 2017 jl)
• Boxes possibly destroyed the universe.
• Statements about flash creating mini big bangs and spawning galaxies.
• When talking about the time reversel scene they had to animate barry differently cause he was unstuck in time.
• Flash can trescend space/time and can be at several places at the same time.(7:55)

So these statements does exist and can be taken into account under certian circumstances.

Thank you I’m new to vsbw so it’s hard to link scans but that’s basically what i was talking about I’ll re edit this post and no I’m not trolling I think my scaling makes sense

 

[Ozcantabak]

Thank you I’m new to vsbw so it’s hard to link scans but that’s basically what i was talking about I’ll re edit this post and no I’m not trolling I think my scaling makes sense

Ah its fine than, sorry i thought it was a troll cause it was tagged with "superman dceu wank".
Also i have edited the massege since i missed some links.

 

[Isaacbobanka]

• Statements about flash creating mini big bangs and spawning galaxies.

Second statment also seems to state "he's rebuilding the universe"

 

[InfinityUltron]

So i am going to be making a thread about how underrated dceu characters are and basically i think they slam the mcu even if you boost the mcu characters to star lvl or uni

Firstly lets start with the man of steel himself superman i think within his movies he can get alot higher than agreed upon "multi continental" scale in man of steel the world engine feat is often interperted as multi cont but it is actually star level because of one simple fact the vfx artist stated that the world engine could create neutron stars by compacting matter at a planets core meaning it can survive the energy of neutron star per second which 10 to the 50th joules of energy which is star lvl or even solar system level thats just man of steel and this a full "few weeks" calc so it could be even higher if it was days and even if it was not doing the same to earth as krpyton the world engine can still do it in a few weeks as stated in the start of the movie when jor el talks to krpytons council so it can still emit that same amount of energy in the timeframe as the indian ocean world engine the vfx artist confirm its the one as seen in the indiin ocean or the same type of machine implyiing they can do the same type of thing and same durability so superman even destroying or affecting the world engine gets him to star or solar system level first movie!!!!!

Bvs upscales wonder woman and doomsday they also are star lvl


in the justice league movie snyder and whedon cut superman can seperate the motherboxes and destroy and depower them because desaad says the motherboxes are destroyed and in th whedon cut the motherboxes blow up so i believe that is galaxy level because the vfx artist for the snyder cut say the motherbox destrys everythign with a quasar at the origin of it all qausars are powered by supermassive blackholes and emit more energy and light than entire galaxies like our own and the energy dwarfs galaxies like our own so it could be galaxy+ feat but it is galaxy level

the motherboxes are stated to be power and have unlimited energy and peprtual energy meaning they are universal in terms of potential energy output so superman destroying them would scale him to universal or high uni as infinite energy is high uni and the motherboxes being abel to survive that output give em uni durability and supes can destroy and seperate them

this is also an upscale for Zeus who did it with one shot and shazam who has Zeus lightning and his power galaxy to uni level zeus and shazam along with ares who killed zeus so wonder woman could be as well considering she beat ares

darkseid is also upscaled because he is on par with superman as stated by zack snyder himself alognside steppenwolf and he also crushed steppen wolf head who can endure supermans punches who is uni also upscale for aquaman trident and wonder woman sword cuz they can pierce and cut steppenwolf and zack snyder said aquamans trident can pierce superman skin cyborg also can endure bloodlusted superman laser beam and react to it


the flash movie and some in universe implications for supes from his novel and enchantress scaling

so for flash we know he says the speed force is dimensional layer of reality that can manipulate spacetime= 4d so flash is 4d already
he can go "far beyond the speed of light" ambiguous and not just "faster than the speed of light" and he travels through linear time afterwards so he has immeasurable speed. flash has immeasurable speed
novel states supes can resist extra dimensional forces which is above our 4d realm therefore 5d supes
enchnatress is 5d as she is extra dimensional 5d again which supes is stated to be the most unstoppable force in the dceu so yeah hes 5d

supes is at least ftl to mftl because the novel states he can escape the event horizon of a blackhole which you have to be ftl for

his heat vision are stated to be heat rays by the novel = light speed via electromagnetic radiation which is light speed and they reflect off of surfaces and are stated to be red beams of light

multiple times supes in guidebooks states that his fighting speed is as fast as his travel speed and we see him move while shooting his lasers at doomsday as referenced in the picture by the

guidebook upscaling doomsday wonder woman and zod who all fight on par and react to the beams after they are shot


so hes ftl to immesaurbale in speed cuz he can perception blitz flash and zod form the flash movie can grab flash out of the speedforce chronoball which is outside of time and supes in the movie is the only one who can beat zos=d as sated by flash himself so supes should be as fast as that zod

flash in that movie can tank lightning from dark flash which can affect and engulf and cause the chrono ball to collide and young barry can shoot lightning which can destroy pieces of the chrono ball which sits outside of time and holds infinite spacetime contimums as we know the dceu universe is a spacetime aka 4d so chrono ball holding on to all those universes and more scales it to 5d so flash is 5d via flash movie with his lightning and durability we know durability scales so ap so yeah


mcu characters like thor thanos and hulk and iron man not even continent level or ftl except for maybe the celestials or cpt marvel lmaoooo

I still see not a single scan in sight, also why do we have MCU Character mentions? This is a DCEU Upscale after all so just makes you look like you're one of those fans who like to wank their verse to Outer and downplay every other to try and say their verse is the Goatest and surpasses all other verses