DC Comics Street level characters Upgrade

[Hellbeast1]

Ah hell yeah mate he does scale.

 

[XING06]

Also considering Deathstroke and Bane are much much stronger than Bats, they should probably be Likely 8B. I still think that the lower tier people who were originally 9C should only be high 9A though, so that would be like Ivy, Joker?, Catwoman, Unenhanced Harley.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Being somewhat stronger than someone doesnt warrant them being a full two tiers higher. And there's no such thing as High 9-A

 

[Reppuzan]

In today's Batman #35, Catwoman fought Talia and eventually overpowered her. Talia has consistently been compared to Batman overall.

 

[XING06]

Wait seriously! Did not know that pls scratch the 9a then. But still deathstroke is almost always portrayed as being much stronger than batman. It was even in their previous profiles with deathstroke and bane? being a tier higher. I think we can safely put them at likely 8b

 

[WeeklyBattles]

You can be stronger than someone and still be in the same tier, and like i said before, being somewhat stronger than someone alone doesnt in any way warrant you being two full tiers higher than them

 

[XING06]

Actually I just wanted to move them up a single tier not two (I forgot about High 8C), which they already were before in their past profiles because of their strength. Sorry not 8b likely high 8c instead thoughts?

 

[Antvasima]

Our standard praxis is usually to write "At least [character A's tier]" for character B, if character B is stronger than character A, and it is not a very narrow tier.

 

[Antvasima]

Also, I edited Catwoman's profile with the updated information.

 

[XING06]

Oh yeah while we're at this we might want to update their lifting strengths too. I'm not sure whether this is post-crisis or not but Batman states he has a maximum leg press of 2500 lbs around 1100 kg so at least Class 1 instead of Peak Human. Could someone please check?

 

[Ryukama]

Possible upgrade for Post-Flashpoint Batman's lifting strength maybe.

Lifts Solomon Grundy in the air with one arm.

According to DC Comics Wiki, Grundy is 971 pounds.

Not sure if Grundy is actually that heavy since there doesn't seem to be a source and maybe there's something (like the context of the feat) that I'm missing, so I'd like some varification from other experts.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Also considering Deathstroke and Bane are much much stronger than Bats

I get Deathstroke, but Bane? At least for the Post-Crisis universe, I believe he's lost every single fight against Batman except for the first one. Where he wore down Batman over a long peroid of time with villain attacks. New 52 is different since he has more of a Arkhamverse Venom upgrade.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that 1100 kilograms is Class 5, not Class 1, so characters as strong or stronger than Batman should scale accordingly.

As for Bane, he is only physically stronger than Batman when using Venom, as far as I am aware.

 

[Hellbeast1]

I agree with that notion especially with Bane's feat of no selling hits from and overpowring Catman (someone who stalemated Batman) then we have his feat of OHKOing Batman in his Matches Malone disguise, Manbat and nearly doing this to Azrael. He should also scale to Croc when on Venom since he can match him on many occasions (Croc can tear bank vault doors off their hinges in PC)

 

[Momolilya]

Oh yeah while we're at this we might want to update their lifting strengths too. I'm not sure whether this is post-crisis or not but Batman states he has a maximum leg press of 2500 lbs around 1100 kg so at least Class 1 instead of Peak Human. Could someone please check?

That is from Batman Odyssey #2 (It's apperently Post-Crisis but was released during the New 52, which makes it questionable weather or not it is canon) Also, Deathstroke only beat Batman once and he was so injured to the point he got beaten by a random thug.

IMO Deathstroke is 8-A. Some DC Street levelers are at least8-C but I doubt all of them are.

 

[Momolilya]

I think that 1100 kilograms is Class 5, not Class 1, so characters as strong or stronger than Batman should scale accordingly.
As for Bane, he is only physically stronger than Batman when using Venom, as far as I am aware.

Bane is shown to be physically stronger than Batman even without Venom. Skill is what differentiate them.

 

[Js250476]

Iirc wasn't Deadshot's weapon calced at 8-A two? Or was that not accepted?

 

[Antvasima]

Are there any revisions that still need to be done here, or should we close this thread?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Are there any revisions that still need to be done here, or should we close this thread?

Feel free to close.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.