DBS low 2-C scaling revision

[LightReinh12345]

"Very short AP advantage" Probably nah Goku didnt one Shot Frieza in Namek arc
Recoome didnt one Shot Vegeta as well even though he was easily beating him

 

[Greenshifter]

Pretty sure appearing in another Timeline > Baseline Low 2-C

Fair then, if you can fit Goku's entire transformation scaling chain in that gap then baseline Low 2-C for base Goku is fine I guess.

 

[Greenshifter]

Ok? What does that have to do with anything?

You're arguing that Goku blue is slightly inferior to IZ I assume. Since the gap between Goku blue and base Goku is way bigger than between Gohan and Cell, Goku blue can oneshot base Goku (by your Cell saga logic) and thus IZ can also oneshot him, thus he doesn't scale.

 

[LightReinh12345]

Fair then, if you can fit Goku's entire transformation scaling chain in that gap then baseline Low 2-C for base Goku is fine I guess.

Why not distance in Timeline is not quantitative
So zamasu is Unquantifiably higher than baseline low 2-C
So base Goku to SSB Goku could be in between those scalings

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

No. I’m saying base Goku is low 2-C for surviving low 2-C attacks with no problem. The zenkais support this. Infact, being like 1.5x stronger to one shot only supports the idea that base Goku is closer to IZ than you think. @Greenshifter

 

[Greenshifter]

So Goku blue can oneshot IZ then? This ought to be interesting...

 

[Rikimarox2]

I agree with the op here.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

So Goku blue can oneshot IZ then? This ought to be interesting...

If he had NPI yeah.

 

[Greenshifter]

All I can say is good luck.

 

[Peter1129]

Didn’t Gowasu and Shin block one of those beam attacks from Infinite Zamasu? So I’m pretty sure those beams Infinite Zamasu shot werent Low 2-C at all if even High 4-Cs could block it.

 

[LightReinh12345]

But one thing Cabba & Caulifla were 3-A now they are Low 2-C hmm

 

[Kin201]

So Goku blue can oneshot IZ then? This ought to be interesting...

Goku Blue one-shots Vegeto Blue.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Didn’t Gowasu and Shin block one of those beam attacks if from Infinite Zamasu? So I’m pretty sure those beams Infinite Zamasu shot werent Low 2-C at all.

So what if they blocked it? Are you implying IZ is high 4-C? Lmao.

 

[Peter1129]

You’re saying they are Low 2-C via backscaling from surviving Infinite Zamasu’s beam in episode 67. But literally 5 seconds later we see Gowasu and Shin blocking one of those beams Infinite Zamasu shot from his mouth. So those beams Infinite Zamasu shot at them clearly wasn’t Low 2-C. Infinite Zamasu later on simply increased his output to the point where he could overpower them doesn’t mean he is using Low 2-C lvls of power against them.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

You’re saying they are Low 2-C via backscaling from surviving Infinite Zamasu’s beam in episode 67. But literally 5 seconds later we see Gowasu and Shin blocking one of those beams Infinite Zamasu shot from his mouth. So those beams Infinite Zamasu shot at them clearly wasn’t Low 2-C.

No, they were using a barrier.

It's a feat for the barrier, not an anti-feat for Zamasu

 

[Peter1129]

Bruh are you seriously trying to say Gowasu and Shin’s combined barrier is Low 2-C? There is literally no way this is gonna be accepted.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Well merging with DB universe is probably higher than baseline

With this logic merging with the space-time of an infinite-sized multiverse is infinitely above the baseline

 

[StrymULTRA]

Anyway, I disagree, IZ not being baseline Low 2-C disqualifies all the Tier 2 scaling of the verse except the Beerus one.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Anyway, I disagree, IZ not being baseline Low 2-C disqualifies all the Tier 2 scaling of the verse except the Beerus one.

How? It would only boost the degree of Low 2-C.

Also,it isn't Accepted yet, thats why i Brought it Up as an opinion.

Zamasu is baseline Low 2-C for now

 

[LightReinh12345]

With this logic merging with the space-time of an infinite-sized multiverse is infinitely above the baseline

Read what I said later lol

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Bruh are you seriously trying to say Gowasu and Shin’s combined barrier is Low 2-C? There is literally no way this is gonna be accepted.

Like I asked before. Are you implying IZ’s beams are high 4-C?

 

[LightReinh12345]

Anyway, I disagree, IZ not being baseline Low 2-C disqualifies all the Tier 2 scaling of the verse except the Beerus one.

Lol what Kind of logic is this it will just prove They are higher in low 2-C

 

[StrymULTRA]

It makes more sense for Zamasu being just baseline, there aren't baseline Low 2-C feats before his, and in DBS downscaling from baseline Low 2-Cs is just 3-A.

Also, I'm pretty sure that him expanding in other timelines is just range, like Junko doesen't have more AP than High 3-A/Low 2-C just because her existence is expanded to other timelines.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Downscaling from baseline low 2-C is just 3-A

-.-

 

[Rikimarox2]

Bruh are you seriously trying to say Gowasu and Shin’s combined barrier is Low 2-C? There is literally no way this is gonna be accepted.

I mean...

It's either that the barriers are Low 2-C, or the attacks of Zamasu, a low 2-C character, cannot damage H4C peeps.

You choose.

 

[00potato]

You can’t downscale slightly from infinite like that Strym.

Also Junk Touhou Project is different since only her true form is spread out like that, and isn’t exactly one with it like Zmasu.

 

[StrymULTRA]

-.-

I mean, Dragon Ball PLs work like this

 

[StrymULTRA]

You can’t downscale slightly from infinite like that Strym.

In DBS Low 2-C isn't infinitely superior to 3-A, so moot point.

Also Junk Touhou Project is different since only her true form is spread out like that, and isn’t exactly one with it like Zmasu.

Zamasu didn't merge yet with the timeline, but just appeared in it, again, is just range.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

It’s still a direct feat though. If ******* Future Trunks can surpass Vegito, before even using the spirit bomb, with zenkais, then there’s no reason Goku and Vegeta can’t in their base forms kek.

 

[00potato]

In DBS Low 2-C isn't infinitely superior to 3-A, so moot point.

Zamasu didn't merge yet with the timeline, but just appeared in it, again, is just range.

That isn’t how tiers work, if you can jump to low 2-C it doesn’t make 3-A anything less then infinitely below low 2-C. Dragon ball doesn’t change how infinity works, not logically or on wiki.
The tiers themselves are constant, just what characters are in each aren’t.

Also that is literally the low-2C feat. It counts.

 

[LightReinh12345]

Senzu beam Statement is still legit
So any SSB Tier characters are low 2-C regardless

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶c̶a̶l̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶w̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶̶m̶a̶k̶e̶ ̶s̶e̶n̶s̶e̶ ̶i̶f̶ ̶B̶a̶t̶t̶l̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶G̶o̶d̶s̶ ̶w̶a̶s̶ ̶L̶o̶w̶ ̶2̶-̶C̶,̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶i̶ ̶w̶o̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶e̶n̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶a̶r̶g̶u̶m̶e̶n̶t̶.̶.̶.̶ ̶

 

[LightReinh12345]

̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶c̶a̶l̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶w̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶̶m̶a̶k̶e̶ ̶s̶e̶n̶s̶e̶ ̶i̶f̶ ̶B̶a̶t̶t̶l̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶G̶o̶d̶s̶ ̶w̶a̶s̶ ̶L̶o̶w̶ ̶2̶-̶C̶,̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶i̶ ̶w̶o̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶e̶n̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶a̶r̶g̶u̶m̶e̶n̶t̶.̶.̶.̶ ̶

I believe its actually 2-C feat I will try to make a crt with more evidences later

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

I believe its actually 2-C feat I will try to make a crt with more evidences later

̶D̶u̶d̶e̶,̶ ̶g̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶u̶p̶.̶ ̶I̶ ̶d̶o̶ ̶b̶e̶l̶i̶e̶v̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶o̶,̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶L̶o̶w̶ ̶2̶-̶C̶ ̶B̶o̶G̶ ̶w̶o̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶a̶c̶c̶e̶p̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶h̶e̶r̶e̶,̶ ̶l̶e̶t̶ ̶a̶l̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶2̶-̶C̶

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

I believe its actually 2-C feat I will try to make a crt with more evidences later

Don’t.

 

[KLOL506]

Zamasu didn't merge yet with the timeline, but just appeared in it, again, is just range.

He didn't fully merge with the Present Universe 7, but he did fully merge with the Future Universe 7, which had completely died out because of him merging (Every single living organism, trees included obviously).

 

[LightReinh12345]

̶D̶u̶d̶e̶,̶ ̶g̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶u̶p̶.̶ ̶I̶ ̶d̶o̶ ̶b̶e̶l̶i̶e̶v̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶o̶,̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶L̶o̶w̶ ̶2̶-̶C̶ ̶B̶o̶G̶ ̶w̶o̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶a̶c̶c̶e̶p̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶h̶e̶r̶e̶,̶ ̶l̶e̶t̶ ̶a̶l̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶2̶-̶C̶

Lol why everyone say that

 

[KLOL506]

Don’t.

ye I agree with Zamasu Chan, don't.

 

[StrymULTRA]

That isn’t how tiers work, if you can jump to low 2-C it doesn’t make 3-A anything less then infinitely below low 2-C. Dragon ball doesn’t change how infinity works, not logically or on wiki.
The tiers themselves are constant, just what characters are in each aren’t.

Also that is literally the low-2C feat. It counts.

You're literally saying that the UI, Fusions and Legendary SSJ give a literally beyond infinite multipler lmao

 

[KLOL506]

Lol why everyone say that

It's basically Vegeta's Final Explosion but infinitely worse