DB: Super Hero Base Gohan should be Low 2C

[CloverDragon03]

This should make sense. If even a millionth of infinity is still infinity, then 1/50 of infinity should also still be infinity. I say this because Low 2-C’s AP is infinite

Edit: Didn’t notice this thread is almost 5 months old. Damn

 

[Eseseso]

This should make sense. If even a millionth of infinity is still infinity, then 1/50 of infinity should also still be infinity. I say this because Low 2-C’s AP is infinite

And base gohan did almost as well against semi-serious Gamma 1 as his SSJ form did.

Edit: Didn’t notice this thread is almost 5 months old. Damn

Oof.

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

And base gohan did almost as well against semi-serious Gamma 1 as his SSJ form did.

Oof.

Yeah we need more staff input on this as well

 

[Mickey1940]

This should make sense. If even a millionth of infinity is still infinity, then 1/50 of infinity should also still be infinity. I say this because Low 2-C’s AP is infinite

Edit: Didn’t notice this thread is almost 5 months old. Damn

yeah no one really took notice of this thread and I forgot to bump it

 

[Mickey1940]

ngl imo this should extend to Base Goku and Vegeta as well

Goku and Vegeta have always been stronger than Gohan and train far far FAR more than Gohan did, since unlike Gohan they don't study Entomology as a career

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

• Goku decided that an unreasonable power-up was a disadvantage.

Ok? So he got a reasonable power up via MSSJ?
Also all of this gets COMPLETELY contradicted by the fact that SSJ3 is stated to be the strongest form of super saiyan, and yet under your logic, it literally would just not be the strongest form.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

• Gohan acquires this from while training with Goku in the Room of Spirit and Time in order to fight Cell. He trained by trying to live with Super Saiyan as his normal state.
• Goku and Gohan trained to make Super Saiyan their regular state.

None of this contradicts MSSJ > Grade 3, at all. Furthermore, they aren't saying grade 1 here specifically, and furthermore MSSJ is clearly a different form that's dichotomized.
Also the "draw out the power of SSJ to its limits," helps my point more, clearly, since it wouldn't make sense for them to be speaking so highly of MSSJ and yet have grade 4 be weaker than grade 3 by a gap greater than an order of magnitude.
Finally, grade 2 is literally just superior to grade 1 in speed and strength, so you would have grade 4 < grade 2 in both of these categories.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Guys, I think (though obviously this was my fault to begin with) we're just necroing this thread by now

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Argue that in a different thread, Fletcher.

 

[Eseseso]

I mean I'd still like for this to be concluded.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

So I should close this thread?

 

[Eseseso]

So I should close this thread?

I mean, it's not like anyone disagrees with the CRT and I'd like to get a verdict.

Do you personally agree or disagree with the OP?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I'm neutral but leaning towards agreeing.

 

[CloverDragon03]

So I should close this thread?

Normally you're not allowed to bump a thread that's 3 months old or older, and this one was 5 months old when I bumped it (again, apologies for that)

If the thread can continue, though, my position is still in agreement. With SSG and SSB, those are unquantifiable godly multipliers from the user's base form, but Super Saiyan is a strict 50x amp, so 1/50 of Low 2-C would likely still be Low 2-C

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Normally you're not allowed to bump a thread that's 3 months old or older, and this one was 5 months old when I bumped it (again, apologies for that)

If the thread can continue, though, my position is still in agreement. With SSG and SSB, those are unquantifiable godly multipliers from the user's base form, but Super Saiyan is a strict 50x amp, so 1/50 of Low 2-C would likely still be Low 2-C

This makes sense but that’s not what the op is arguing Gamma 1 and 2 are low 2C and Base gohan managed to hold his own against gamma (forgot the number) meaning he should be in the low 2-C ballpark which makes sense id say

 

[CloverDragon03]

Well that can also work as support, further supporting Low 2-C Base Gohan

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

Base Gohan being Low 2-C should be fine since his performance against Gamma 1 was better than Piccolo's against Gamma 2. Hell, Piccolo stated that the only reason Gohan was struggling was due to Gamma adapting to his fighting style as their fight went on.

Though, scaling off the Gammas is a bit weird since the Red Ribbon Army seemed surprised when Gohan transformed, meaning they were unaware of the Saiyan transformations. Both Piccolo and Gohan were able to defeat their respective Gammas by going Orange/Ultimate. Though apparently guidebooks state that the Gammas are the mightiest androids, so you maybe scale them off of what 17 is able to perform.

 

[Eseseso]

Base Gohan being Low 2-C should be fine since his performance against Gamma 1 was better than Piccolo's against Gamma 2. Hell, Piccolo stated that the only reason Gohan was struggling was due to Gamma adapting to his fighting style as their fight went on.

Great.

Though, scaling off the Gammas is a bit weird since the Red Ribbon Army seemed surprised when Gohan transformed, meaning they were unaware of the Saiyan transformations. Both Piccolo and Gohan were able to defeat their respective Gammas by going Orange/Ultimate. Though apparently guidebooks state that the Gammas are the mightiest androids, so you maybe scale them off of what 17 is able to perform.

I mean, Piccolo himself compared them to SSJB Goku/Vegeta (at minimum), so if anything this further supports Low 2-C Base Gohan

 

[Mickey1940]

Great.

I mean, Piccolo himself compared them to SSJB Goku/Vegeta (at minimum), so if anything this further supports Low 2-C Base Gohan

Piccolo didn't compare the Gammas to the Blues. He simply said they were comparable to Goku and Vegeta, while not specifying any form

 

[CloverDragon03]

Piccolo didn't compare the Gammas to the Blues. He simply said they were comparable to Goku and Vegeta, while not specifying any form

There was already a whole debate on that where it was accepted to mean their Blue forms

 

[Mickey1940]

There was already a whole debate on that where it was accepted to mean their Blue forms

ah ok